Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore

["J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>]

On Saturday, May 31, 2014 02:17:32 PM Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 31/05/14 05:47, Steven J. Long wrote:
> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 09:57:01AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >> On 27/05/14 08:34, Michał Górny wrote:
> >>> Dnia 2014-05-26, o godz. 23:15:34
> >>> 
> >>> Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> >>>> UPower upstream removed sys-power/pm-utils support from 0.99 release
> >>>> (currently unkeyworded in tree), as in, from current git master.
> >>> 
> >>> Don't worry. Looking at the past, I can guess this is only a temporary
> >>> inconvenience. I'm pretty sure upower will be discontinued soon
> >>> and replaced with systemd-powerd or something :D.
> >> 
> >> That's more or less what they already did, they forced eg.
> >> xfce4-power-manager upstream
> >> to move the deleted pm-utils code from upower directly to the power
> >> manager (application)
> >> itself, likewise for xfce4-session
> >> Which means applications will now need to duplicate the pm-utils related
> >> code per application
> >> basis
> >> So I expect upower to be more or less dead for everything but systemd
> >> users, except for
> >> those upstreams that will actually follow the Xfce path and do the
> >> duplication
> >> Yet, still, small portition of the code is still 'generic', so
> >> xfce4-power-manager will still need
> >> both, upower, even 0.99, and then pm-utils, depending on the version,
> >> codepath is selected
> >> 
> >> This was sort of expected, since pm-utils has been abandoned for ~5
> >> years now at upstream,
> >> so nobody is maintaining non-systemd related power management tools
> >> anymore, and
> >> falling back to eg. manual laptop-mode-tools, acpid, etc. usage will be
> >> necessary again,
> >> it's like going back to 90s for non-systemd users :P
> > 
> > I can't believe I'm reading that from a distro-developer. Basically this
> > entire thread is "systemd is deprecating the existing tools, so let's dump
> > them and half our userbase back to the 90s, isn't that a great thing?"
> 
> Then you misunderstood. Notice the ":P" as an indicator of sarcasm.
> I've already created sys-power/upower-pm-utils where the sys-power/pm-utils
> 0.9 git branch will continue to live.

Would have been nice to fix all the dependencies BEFORE marking the systemd-
depending "sys-power/upower-pm-utils" stable.

--
Joost