From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F7559CAD for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C42521C03A; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E1C421C027 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (dra13-4-78-234-166-189.fbx.proxad.net [78.234.166.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: aballier) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF4B3340BD7 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:10:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Alexis Ballier To: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] =?iso-8859-1?Q?gen=5Fusr=5Fldscript:_migrate_away_from_a_sep-/usr_by_defa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ult?= Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:09:58 +0200 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <28ef45dc-2141-4847-ab0c-26b1a5566063@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20160331181952.GJ6588@vapier.lan> References: <1459382320-20672-1-git-send-email-vapier@gentoo.org> <95d3d986-aecd-47f1-85c7-fd47be8ffd39@gentoo.org> <20160331160728.GH6588@vapier.lan> <1ca1fc7d-c610-4221-9a5d-91c829b2f635@gentoo.org> <20160331181952.GJ6588@vapier.lan> Organization: Gentoo User-Agent: Trojita/0.6; Qt/5.5.1; xcb; Linux; Gentoo Base System release 2.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c5654f2b-7563-4a2d-8333-18c6888a7f51 X-Archives-Hash: ab08c280ec7ae09268d8a41c6d129d0f On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:19:52 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 31 Mar 2016 19:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: >> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 6:07:28 PM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On 31 Mar 2016 16:05, Alexis Ballier wrote: ... >>=20 >> i dont think anybody expects you to post tree-wide conversion patches to=20= >> -dev ml :) >>=20 >> but i also dont think it is a good idea to leave the toolchain-funcs=20 >> version around, and if you want to drop it, you'll have to=20 >> fill bugs to let=20 >> ppl know, which is probably more work than adding 8 chars to an inherit=20= >> line that can be automated > > sure -- backwards compat won't be dropped until we're confident everyone > has migrated over ... which introduces a mess to track what has been converted and what not=20 while it can be done once and for good >>> ... >> not sure if this was phrased as such, but I seem to recall a council=20 >> decision stating that separate /usr should be made easy to users unless=20= >> this causes serious issues; thus, no, I don't think that is=20 >> the behavior we=20 >> want :) ... > > pretty sure the decision was that it's not required to be supported. lemme look it up for you then: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Council_decisions systems with separate /usr should be supported. However, users shouldn't be=20= constrained from using software which doesn't support that. -- 04/2012=20 meeting The council has voted in favour of a separate /usr being supported (5 yes, 1 no vote). > and > regardless of that, i don't see the default behavior of being off as being > contra "easy to use". but you're right there, it doesn't make it hard to use, just not working=20 out of the box, which is already debatable; however, with eudev being the=20 default I don't think there is anything preventing it atm with a default=20 setup, but i might certainly stand corrected there