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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.17 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6e35ba9b-a55b-4b36-9d79-96faa5fb1dc6@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: f837ce8a-1fb3-4c43-8434-c1cc7802ee37 X-Archives-Hash: 66658c26dc02e0967c4b58e1ef65c4df Andrew Ammerlaan wrote: > > And then another thing, how is it possible that so many people missed > the news item? They are displayed quite prominently I think, and > emerge will keep buggering you about it until it is marked as read. > Just wondering if there is something that can be improved here. > > Best regards, > Andrew I'm pretty good at reading the news items.  I seem to recall that you see one only if it affects you, you have a package installed or something.  So, if it shows up, it is best to take notice.  That said, I don't recall seeing the news item either.  I can't imagine me missing it but I also can't imagine me not taking action either. After all, (eu)dev is a important package.  One thing is for sure, the name is rather obvious.  The first word in the title is eudev.  I have yet to figure out how I missed it.  Given the number of people who did, could there have been a glitch and it didn't show for some weird reason?  Has someone who understands the code checked to see if there was some typo that made it not show for most users?  I do think this is worth looking into.  It just seems odd.  Dale :-)  :-)