Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support

["Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" <mva@mva.name>]

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> You should really either reconsider your understanding of opensource or
> start to pay me.

we're talking not about you and your opensource work. We're talking about your 
consideration to force allmaintanersto drop gtk2 *even if they want to 
maintain it*. And I disagree with exactly that. Or, do you argue that forcing 
by lack of manpower in QA team?

And one more thing: opensource is "you're free to do the thing or to not to 
do". But not the "you're not free to do that" (i.e. "you're forced to not add 
gtk2 in the ebuilds, despite of upstream supported it and you want to add it")

> Gentoo is for the most part GPL-2 and you can fork, change and
> redistribute it any way you want. We are not dictating anything.

Yes it is (and let's omit the facts, that it is some forks already). But we 
are talking about bueraucratic enforcement of people (maintainers and users), 
but not about forking policy.

> Given the fact that we are short on manpower and that most part of the
> linux ecosystem is moving towards gtk3... there has been no good
> argument to support a toolkit version - that is (about to be) deprecated
> - for exotic corner use cases that people tried to come up with in the
> heat of the argument.

It is great one: it is not *yet* deprecated. It is okay to drop it from the 
tree when it will be deopped by upstream. But dropping something by downstream 
will (at least, without official explaination "because of lack of manpower") 
is something strange and tyranny.

And I'm pretty sure, if you'll post such notice, there will definitely be 
people, that would be happy to assist in that situation.

> Gtk3 is not gnome3. Gtk3 is not systemd. Can we please be realistic now?

Gtk3-related politic, that we discussing here looks very simiar to gnome3 
upstream politic.


P.S. Don't count this as mockery, but, following that logic, maybe we should 
also drop python2, because of deprecation in favour of python3? :) It will 
definitelly help to decrease manpower on maintainership.

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Best regards,
mva

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