From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6175E138ABA for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 999A021C007; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9792721C001 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from devil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ago) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E68233DBB5 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:03:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Agostino Sarubbo To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:03:43 +0100 Message-ID: <2415518.JM1V4B20yx@devil> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.5 (Linux/3.2.35-gentoo; KDE/4.9.5; i686; ; ) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: 8fa09643-e129-4e0b-ac1f-38aecae772da X-Archives-Hash: b6a9af2d139608bad24c49594230b870 In the last time I'm helping some other arches (also arches which I have no interest) because they appears understaffed. Days ago, I tried to make a virtual machine with qemu, for SH since the dev- machine[1] is a bit slow; well, I discovered we have no ISO[2] available and there is no handbook[3] for it. The same thing is for S390/S390X/M68K/. So how I am able to install one of that _supported_ arches if there isn't any sort of guide? An interesting fact is that we have an handbook for MIPS[4], a declared unsupported architecture (does not make sense for me). Another example is that we have no stable keyword on GCC/glibc for m68k and I don't know if I need to use another compiler or another libc. Checking on bugzilla I saw no report for some of those arches, so for me that _partially_ means that probably there are very few users for those arches on gentoo. Now, imho, we have 2 choice: 1)Support them with an iso or at least a manual if we can't do an handbook 2)Lose the stable keyword and don't waste manpower anymore. What do you think about? Ref: [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/dev-machines.xml [2]: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml [3]: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/#doc_chap2 [4]: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook- mips.xml?style=printable&full=1 -- Agostino Sarubbo / ago -at- gentoo.org Gentoo Linux Developer