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Misbakh-Soloviov" <mva@mva.name> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:31:44 +0600 Message-ID: <2405010.0JSpNPP3XQ@note> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (Linux/4.1.5; KDE/4.14.11; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150910150716.5a843cc7.mgorny@gentoo.org> References: <55EFDEC7.1070403@gentoo.org> <20150910124641.GB6567@greenbeast> <20150910150716.5a843cc7.mgorny@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3909426.JlIom5gGxE"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 28b1c933-b2d0-49cd-822e-0e6d19e283ea X-Archives-Hash: b40998eadf9251fd07669e9c45d6d0e6 --nextPart3909426.JlIom5gGxE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I disagree witho you and hasufell. It *IS* users destiny if they get some stabiity issues because of their= =20 decision to have gtk2-only or gtk3-only system. Yes, they can paste bugs about improper toolkit support. Is it bad? Rul= es says=20 it should be reported upstream. And all the time Gentoo exists that wor= ked=20 this way. The whole point of Gentoo is to give user freedom of the choice. Freedo= m to=20 decide every aspect that is possible to decide about. Freedom to use Ge= ntoo=20 exactly as they want, but not as "you don't need feature X, because I'm= =20 maintainer/QA and said that", like some DebUbuntu maintainers did with = git or,=20 say, ejabberd, some years ago. Any movements to the easy side of "we wi= ll not=20 support feature X, despite upstream still support it, because feature Y= is=20 newer and shiny, and feature X can be less tested" is a big fat violati= on of=20 Gentoo philosophy. And I totally agree with Rich: it is maintainer decision, if they ready= to=20 support mutiple build variants or not. And if not =E2=80=94 it is absol= utelly lawful=20 user's right to file a bug against a package, that it has support in up= stream,=20 but has not in the Gentoo. WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO DICTATE users what they should use and what they sh= ould=20 not. We are makers of kinda army swiss knife suite that give user possi= bility=20 and instruments to make everything they want. And any tries to say "you= shall=20 use SystemD, but not sysV/openrc/upstart/whatever", or "you shall use g= tk3=20 only", or "you shall use Qt5 only", and so on =E2=80=94 is a CRIME agai= nst Gentoo=20 philosophy. =2D-=20 Best regards, mva --nextPart3909426.JlIom5gGxE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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