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From: "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" <mva@mva.name>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:31:44 +0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2405010.0JSpNPP3XQ@note> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150910150716.5a843cc7.mgorny@gentoo.org>

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I disagree witho you and hasufell.

It *IS* users destiny if they get some stabiity issues because of their 
decision to have gtk2-only or gtk3-only system.

Yes, they can paste bugs about improper toolkit support. Is it bad? Rules says 
it should be reported upstream. And all the time Gentoo exists that worked 
this way.

The whole point of Gentoo is to give user freedom of the choice. Freedom to 
decide every aspect that is possible to decide about. Freedom to use Gentoo 
exactly as they want, but not as "you don't need feature X, because I'm 
maintainer/QA and said that", like some DebUbuntu maintainers did with git or, 
say, ejabberd, some years ago. Any movements to the easy side of "we will not 
support feature X, despite upstream still support it, because feature Y is 
newer and shiny, and feature X can be less tested" is a big fat violation of 
Gentoo philosophy.

And I totally agree with Rich: it is maintainer decision, if they ready to 
support mutiple build variants or not. And if not — it is absolutelly lawful 
user's right to file a bug against a package, that it has support in upstream, 
but has not in the Gentoo.

WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO DICTATE users what they should use and what they should 
not. We are makers of kinda army swiss knife suite that give user possibility 
and instruments to make everything they want. And any tries to say "you shall 
use SystemD, but not sysV/openrc/upstart/whatever", or "you shall use gtk3 
only", or "you shall use Qt5 only", and so on — is a CRIME against Gentoo 
philosophy.

-- 
Best regards,
mva

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-09  7:20 [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2015-09-09  7:24 ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-09  8:52   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-09-09 10:37   ` hasufell
2015-09-09 13:17     ` Brian Dolbec
2015-09-09 13:31       ` hasufell
2015-09-10  6:21     ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-10  8:47       ` hasufell
2015-09-10 10:45         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 10:50           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:03             ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:13               ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:25                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:33                   ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:44                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:53                       ` hasufell
2015-09-10 13:10                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 15:35                           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 15:41                             ` Alec Warner
2015-09-10 15:50                               ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 16:50                               ` hasufell
2015-09-10 16:51                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 13:38                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Alan McKinnon
2015-09-10 12:46                     ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-10 13:07                       ` Michał Górny
2015-09-10 13:20                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 14:31                         ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov [this message]
2015-09-10 15:38                           ` Alec Warner
2015-09-10 16:37                             ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 16:57                           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 17:17                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 18:05                               ` hasufell
2015-09-10 18:22                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 18:30                                 ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2015-09-10 17:43                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 19:04                               ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 18:50                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 16:24                         ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-10 16:50                           ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 12:47                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-09-10 16:21         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 18:15         ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2015-09-10 18:21           ` hasufell
2015-09-10 18:26             ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11  9:03               ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-11 12:13                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 17:11                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-11 17:41                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 18:03                       ` [gentoo-dev] USE="gui" Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-11 18:16                         ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 20:34                         ` hasufell
2015-09-11 23:52                           ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-12 11:47                             ` hasufell
2015-09-12  2:29                           ` [gentoo-dev] USE="gui" Duncan
2015-09-12  4:45                             ` Dale
2015-09-12  2:24                         ` Duncan
2015-09-12  4:55                   ` [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Raymond Jennings
2015-09-12 10:00                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-12 10:48                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-13  5:07                         ` Duncan
2015-09-12 10:04                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2015-09-09 10:06 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? (was: www-client/chromium gtk3 support) Duncan
2015-09-09 15:12   ` »Q«
2015-09-10  2:23     ` Duncan
2015-09-09 15:32   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-10  2:02     ` Duncan
2015-09-09 13:47 ` [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Alexandre Rostovtsev
2015-09-10  6:28   ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-09 15:00 ` Mike Gilbert
2015-09-09 15:10   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2015-09-09 15:16     ` Alec Warner
2015-09-09 15:40       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-09 15:48         ` hasufell
2015-09-09 16:14           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-09 16:36             ` hasufell
2015-09-09 18:17           ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.

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