From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D8138F14 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3819614018; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 265BBE0880 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbzr7 with SMTP id zr7so113663095lbb.1 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:27:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; bh=pYb7INnbk3bexjRbcCOuXt7AcernSnc2qoGLknwDxto=; b=JUKmR2C1mIIimGtWzh8Ci6/S25F8om/5v9gxR4x6CgRgGNuTvaq/asyRmulj6BXS7C smBEwQf9MAKgXbmM+FTY2Uk8TrdEC4LeERwpWCjS3++s/8MO65Z94dSBe/Y51qQHSgGy bcpw1jSOjHbRaiXBmRKUkHRwdHupdr3LWT/HMT5MQutfkxQQADgvz61ml8fNEHivM4Bv InPdx7ZiMc5oWoIJMv2CdDy7YGLfRWWH0LdtigXRG49pm5pkKSsRERzjIk7QeYFik3Va J5yq2zbIiQ921o77YmxnK2NoFYIzN7pWIpbLPJeYrMbPHgWgEn3gxTEMwGdgSSSz8zKI B6kA== X-Received: by 10.112.137.164 with SMTP id qj4mr32118620lbb.105.1437478077659; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admpc.kmvbook ([84.54.200.38]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id kv1sm5957443lbb.48.2015.07.21.04.27.56 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Igor Savlook To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Reverted python3.4 defaults Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:27:52 +0300 Message-ID: <2382648.LMMUIJlB4S@admpc> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.8 (Linux/4.1.2; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20150720092749.GA30614@meriadoc.Home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1864736.OPYOOni5yC"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 914ca6d4-26da-4184-a084-8448dab5a51e X-Archives-Hash: 5df8fa85c1b4f5fdff286e98c6d518cb --nextPart1864736.OPYOOni5yC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Tuesday 21 July 2015 18:59:00 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 20 July 2015 at 17:27, Jason Zaman wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:39:25AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> > I would like to hear from the other team members, yes. > >> > >> I have sympathy towards those who are asking for only one Python in > >> stages (as in, I would be fine with that), but I very much think we > >> should not leave Python 3 out of generally installed systems by > >> default. We need to move through the transition, and increasing the > >> barriers to Python 3 adoption will only make that process slower. > >> > >> I also feel like a voting process for this is probably not a solution. > > > > I also very much dislike shipping only python2. Having only one python > > is admirable and I'm all for it but if we only ship one by default it > > should be python3. > > That is a nice sentiment, but unpractical. We have a lot more packages > that require python2, while we only have 74 that require python3. > > While it may be possible to ship with python3 only (I haven't looked > at what the packages in stage3 support), users will almost certainly > need to install python2 when they start installing more packages. > > But if we ship with python2 only, then most users won't need python3. > Those who want it, can of course simply add it. Going with python2 as > default simply makes more sense. Hmm on desktop machine with kde and etc. i have only one package with deps on python3 - onboard (because no packages with same functional). :) --nextPart1864736.OPYOOni5yC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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