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Huettel" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Arthur Zamarin Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 22:18:40 +0200 Message-ID: <23555036.6Emhk5qWAg@pinacolada> Organization: Gentoo Linux In-Reply-To: <75654daa-c5fc-45c8-a104-fae43b9ca490@gentoo.org> References: <75654daa-c5fc-45c8-a104-fae43b9ca490@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2610312.Lt9SDvczpP"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: bbaaacc3-d75e-4b9a-9332-f1f1333bbf16 X-Archives-Hash: 753d6fd25d25cd6a9ac0f2ffda69b929 --nextPart2610312.Lt9SDvczpP Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; protected-headers="v1" From: "Andreas K. Huettel" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Arthur Zamarin Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 22:18:40 +0200 Message-ID: <23555036.6Emhk5qWAg@pinacolada> Organization: Gentoo Linux In-Reply-To: <75654daa-c5fc-45c8-a104-fae43b9ca490@gentoo.org> References: <75654daa-c5fc-45c8-a104-fae43b9ca490@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D alpha =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Exp arch, with nearly (or maybe already) full correct dep-tree. matoro > did a lot of great work here, so I think we should promote it to dev > arch, so dep-tree remains unbroken. We dekeyworded a lot of stuff, > cleaned it up, so a nice "completion bonus". >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D m68 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Exp arch, works ? maybe? I've no idea. Let's not touch :) >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D mips =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Exp arch, with mostly good dep-tree. Does mips team want to make it dev > arch? What you call "exp arches" (i.e. architectures with no "stable profiles" at all) are a pain in the behind. Nobody checks if dependencies are correct,=20 and the dependency tree becomes randomly broken. This should ideally only be a temporary status,=20 * either on the way to a consistent deptree (~arch) * or on the way out the door. My 2ct: alpha: well, if it is in a decent state, and if Matoro promises to keep up with keywording requests (important!), let's upgrade it. m68k: dito as soon as Chewi thinks it's ready mips: well... personally I'd love to have it back to a consistent deptree,= =20 but right now it has still waaay too many packages keyworded for that. also, this is a horrible beast, with 32bit, mixed, and 64bit ABI and both big and little endian. we have no hardware at all, and even if we had it would be slow...=20 that said, I dont see us dropping support for mips either. in particular since we're one of the last distros to deal with it... =2D-=20 Andreas K. 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