From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9A4N-0000sJ-7J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:40:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08772E03AF; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B69E03AF for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so557113fks.2 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=acVaH5DnhPNlkVKngyZOehVvMkBNyKIbTX3dKbOXeSU=; b=h3c/xyopMykZo9KSelM2J2jxCZFmLL8Ka7ylHq7UzDXrlNJ2/CwtCz6ST5HOhOpJL+ Dk0UZ9TLl57iSWERLcn5Tklv7SNq/lOqWyKJKMKaQzswd5er1zBoboM6SS2hxMg7/DBS Gf/fpkpXJOgJRznR5TFirbQele07TxZU8fGB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PdkMEV1MOqqW4zLGFWsZOLzGWOoEOjDBbs90V5LTUCX49N4V9E5QiP5dnmx1f3Cxi5 w21CnRXGZf+sWBt1pw+f2pkhoL5SbxX4gypPgXkMTSI6nFsv6pJW4Hz1J+F/Rz4XKHBc 4HZz0HgJKjUS7oIndZ9S5DaZzZZTV2QyM8xgQ= Received: by 10.78.141.12 with SMTP id o12mr757279hud.47.1213843213064; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.137.8 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <22b538bc0806181940n155a8093g9c407d3729052847@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:40:12 -0300 From: "Mauricio Lima Pilla" Sender: mauricio.pilla@gmail.com To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June] In-Reply-To: <1213839792.4449.7.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3168_8794684.1213843213032" References: <20080611070618.54E4066E24@smtp.gentoo.org> <20080611215827.GB7074@comet> <1213540950.16905.149.camel@camobap> <20080615155052.3376fd83@googlemail.com> <1213839792.4449.7.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e274f9e9b5405acf X-Archives-Salt: 2afed7d9-e7a1-4943-96a2-add166e29013 X-Archives-Hash: e5bd137c390249cd9d791357672d412d ------=_Part_3168_8794684.1213843213032 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Chris++ On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:50 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Do you think that the differences between the proportion of patches > > from 'Paludis people' that are accepted or rejected and the proportion > > of patches from 'Portage people' or 'Pkgcore people' indicates a > > problem? > > Nope. What I see as a problem is that the primary author and current > de facto maintainer is so much of an asshole that he was forcibly > removed from the Gentoo project, which PMS is supposed to be written > for, and has ostracized (at least) one of the package manager's > development team with his constant not-so-subtle attacks. Quite > frankly, I'd prefer see Gentoo take control over the specification that > defines the most important single feature of Gentoo and remove the > non-Gentoo developers from its development. No offense, but you're not > a Gentoo developer any longer and you shouldn't have a say in how *we* > manage ourselves. You're more than welcome to contribute code, fork, or > whatever the hell you want. This is open source, after all, but that > doesn't mean you should be allowed to hold the position of power over > Gentoo that you've been granted. > > -- > Chris Gianelloni > Release Engineering Strategic Lead > Games Developer > -- Mauricio Lima Pilla Polytechnic Center - UCPEL pilla@ucpel.tche.br, mauricio.pilla@gmail.com http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~pilla key 0x37705BE0 "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." -- Calvin ------=_Part_3168_8794684.1213843213032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Chris++

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:50 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Do you think that the differences between the proportion of patches
> from 'Paludis people' that are accepted or rejected and the proportion
> of patches from 'Portage people' or 'Pkgcore people' indicates a
> problem?

Nope.   What I see as a problem is that the primary author and current
de facto maintainer is so much of an asshole that he was forcibly
removed from the Gentoo project, which PMS is supposed to be written
for, and has ostracized (at least) one of the package manager's
development team with his constant not-so-subtle attacks.  Quite
frankly, I'd prefer see Gentoo take control over the specification that
defines the most important single feature of Gentoo and remove the
non-Gentoo developers from its development.  No offense, but you're not
a Gentoo developer any longer and you shouldn't have a say in how *we*
manage ourselves.  You're more than welcome to contribute code, fork, or
whatever the hell you want.  This is open source, after all, but that
doesn't mean you should be allowed to hold the position of power over
Gentoo that you've been granted.

--
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Games Developer



--
Mauricio Lima Pilla
Polytechnic Center - UCPEL

pilla@ucpel.tche.br, mauricio.pilla@gmail.com
http://g3pd.ucpel.tche.br/~pilla
key 0x37705BE0

"I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept."
-- Calvin
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