From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9581381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EF16E09B8; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51005E094B for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.134] (helo=smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WrsM4-0006Xg-RN for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 19:18:32 +0200 Received: from 53579160.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.145.96] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WrsM4-00063J-J9 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 19:18:32 +0200 Received: from andromeda.localnet (unknown [10.20.13.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 335454C for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:17:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 19:18:20 +0000 Message-ID: <22982648.r4kCdnmYno@andromeda> Organization: Antarean User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (Linux/3.12.20-gentoo; KDE/4.12.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <538DDF90.8000009@gentoo.org> References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <538DD7D8.1030008@gentoo.org> <538DDF90.8000009@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Ziggo-spambar: ---- X-Ziggo-spamscore: -4.9 X-Ziggo-spamreport: ALL_TRUSTED=-1,BAYES_00=-1.9,PROLO_TRUST_RDNS=-3,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: e9d14b56-340a-4e75-b668-904c07bf0c84 X-Archives-Hash: dd094184f170f120282b6aa657895454 On Tuesday, June 03, 2014 04:45:36 PM Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1= =BB=85n wrote: > Samuli Suominen schrieb: > > On 03/06/14 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> So, I get why you did it, but my concern is that when you tell > >> portage that non-systemd users shouldn't use this package, portage= > >> helpfully solves that problem by turning all the non-systemd users= > >> into systemd users, instead of switching them to the alternative t= hat > >> works without systemd. > >=20 > > Portage doesn't do anything on it's own, surely it needs an admin t= o > > accept > > or reject the changes >=20 > I disagree. It would have been straightforward to create a transition= al > package sys-power/upower-10000 which makes openrc users transition to= > sys-power/upower-pm-utils and systemd users to sys-power/upower-syste= md > or something similar. >=20 > And please keep such changes out of stable until proper documentation= is > in place (and the 30 day period has elapsed, etc.) +1