From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8395358973 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 831DF21C006; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86DA621C002 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 15:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de [134.93.134.92]) by a1www.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id u0GF3tMJ029956; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:03:55 +0100 Received: from a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.2) with ESMTP id u0GF3tfH022757; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:03:55 +0100 Received: (from ulm@localhost) by a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id u0GF3tT7022753; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:03:55 +0100 Message-ID: <22170.23515.66723.500985@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:03:55 +0100 To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_G=F3rny?= Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, Rich Freeman Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: News item format 2.0 In-Reply-To: <20160116095759.132fe6b7.mgorny@gentoo.org> References: <22165.16979.809421.580031@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20160114223024.0e558f10.mgorny@gentoo.org> <22168.10354.465278.536150@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20160116095759.132fe6b7.mgorny@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) From: Ulrich Mueller Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp+signed+gRWvfKOYIUAqrzI"; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ce109f37-6d03-4677-a2c3-16f8b4f42e2d X-Archives-Hash: 90d7c136b606db29f74e1900e81def25 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --pgp+signed+gRWvfKOYIUAqrzI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, Micha=B3 G=F3rny wrote: > That doesn't really make sense to me. There is no real urgency in > getting the new format right now, and omitting the most important > issue is not really the solution here. The idea was to introduce EAPI 5 dependencies for the Display-If-Installed header. Anything else is an added bonus at this stage, and can be included if it is trivial to implement. Nothing prevents us from creating a format 2.1 or 3.0 later for any features that will take more time. Or, if we are thinking in long time scales, we could even incorporate the news item spec into PMS with the next EAPI (and replace the format number by the EAPI). >> The problem with any visibility filtering is that visibility >> depends on user configuration [1], and I don't know what changes in >> the package manager would be necessary to make this work correctly >> and efficiently. For example, how does portage's --autounmask-write >> option interact with it=3F > Leave solving this to Portage developers. Autounmasking is not > something you do often on stable systems, and we have better QA to > avoid issues that could require it. Yeah, if I wasn't sure about Display-If-Visible, then this statement would finally convince me that we should skip that feature, for the time being. That something does not happen often is no excuse for not having an implementation that can handle such rare cases. Ulrich --pgp+signed+gRWvfKOYIUAqrzI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWmlutAAoJEMMJBoUcYcJzmkwIAIk+CPDJozCTCHW5o+ozOwgj 0si4N0ihKFGSc52Vg2URBJ5IhBDC/hfxlByLFVOJcj36CD1/jUhQ7CTeQes242rO VBD/r97jShqoZPn8W96dgemLMpyNhns0uTygnM9LjBHYkC4eVC5JYx85uzypQB5f HHPwbRoRzFiWenNApesl5EqaE8InOiPfgmmOd2pgxwB4Od+R8qBgSzipcK49ZXRG HyofGtt5ayOfiTLTAd0yK7phDVHO7+ar1K6vO5AdoRqeDICQgVarvuVUFE+qlsSU H8FeNe928d1QK5oubsY5de9q74Lu3Ma2MujLkNu21c1BQ6xsoq/Vfqv4VYy+VKY= =XkwV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp+signed+gRWvfKOYIUAqrzI--