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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: new global USE flag gtk3
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 10:26:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21253.51787.375622.975653@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1392886757.7587.38.camel@rook>

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>>>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:

> Unfortunately, at the same time, lots of other developers are going
> to start adding support for building against gtk2 XOR gtk3. Because
> of course "Gentoo is about choice", and the more choices, the
> merrier, and the gtk3 flag has been declared as supported by the QA
> team. And that means lots of REQUIRED_USE="^^ ( gtk gtk3 )".

No, in most cases REQUIRED_USE would be against policy. The actual
policy is to "pick one of the USE flags in conflict to favour and
should alert the user that a particular flag is being used instead",
see the devmanual:
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/use-flags/index.html

> For the gnome team this results in a headache: maintaining a big
> list of "-gtk" / "-gtk3" entries in
> targets/desktop/gnome/package.use so that gnome users get a sensible
> choice and don't need to edit /etc/portage/* just to emerge widely
> used desktop tools.

Right, and that's exactly the reason why REQUIRED_USE should not be
used, except where it's forced be reverse USE dependencies. Quoting
the devmanual again:
"Note: In order to avoid forcing users to micro-manage flags too much,
REQUIRED_USE should be used sparingly. Follow the normal policy
whenever it is possible to do a build that will presumably suit the
user's needs."

Ulrich

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-20  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-19 22:23 [gentoo-dev] RFD: new global USE flag gtk3 Ulrich Mueller
2014-02-20  5:55 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-02-20  7:44   ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-20  8:11     ` Michał Górny
2014-02-20  8:49       ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-02-20  8:55       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-20 10:05       ` Alex Alexander
2014-02-20  8:40     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-02-20  8:47       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-20  8:59         ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-02-20  9:23           ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-20  9:28             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-02-20 10:38               ` Lars Wendler
2014-02-20  9:52             ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-02-20  9:26           ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2014-02-20 10:16             ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-02-20 10:48               ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-02-20 15:32                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-02-20 16:41                   ` hasufell
2014-02-20 16:46                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-02-22 20:57               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-02-22 21:09                 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-02-22 21:50                   ` Ryan Hill
2014-02-22 21:59                     ` Ryan Hill
2014-02-22 22:11                       ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-02-20  9:26         ` [gentoo-dev] " Samuli Suominen
2014-02-20 16:27           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-25 15:28             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-02-25 19:22               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-15 18:55                 ` Raymond Jennings
2014-03-16 14:27                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-22 19:27           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-02-20 10:07   ` Duncan
2014-02-20 10:27     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-02-20 12:21       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-02-20 13:03         ` Matt Turner
2014-02-20 14:08       ` Alex Alexander
2014-02-20 16:51       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-23 16:59         ` Peter Stuge
2014-02-24  0:49           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-24  0:59             ` Peter Stuge
2014-02-24  1:06               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-24  2:16                 ` Peter Stuge
2014-02-24  3:01                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-25 12:06           ` Alex Alexander
2014-02-20  8:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Lars Wendler

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