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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:37:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20575.33063.481247.788747@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <505EFC3B.30005@gentoo.org>

>>>>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, hasufell  wrote:

>> If we really decide to move things to a new license file, then I'd
>> rather avoid the name "as-is" because it is partly the reason for
>> the confusion.

> I agree on that. I saw it more than once that people use "as-is" for
> the license, just because there is an "as is" clause.

Right. Here's a small (but prominent) sample, namely all "as-is"
packages from the amd64 livecd and stage3:

- net-misc/ntp: "as-is" looks fine as main license, although some
  parts of the code are under different licenses like GPL (but I
  haven't checked in detail what gets installed).

- sys-apps/hdparm: "as-is" approximates it (but different wording).
  Debian lists this package as "BSD".

- dev-util/yacc: "public-domain" according to README.

- media-libs/libpng: Comes with its own license. Free.

- media-libs/portaudio: "MIT"

- net-misc/openssh: BSD-ish, something like "BSD BSD-2 as-is BEER-WARE
  public-domain" would be close.

- net-wireless/rfkill: "ISC"

- sys-apps/man-pages: Patchwork of files with different free
  licenses. "as-is GPL-2+ BSD MIT LDP-1 public-domain" would cover
  most of it.

While the above are at least free software (mostly BSD/MIT like),
I think that as-is is completely wrong for the following:

- app-admin/passook: Seems to have no license at all.

- net-wireless/zd1201-firmware: No license in tarball or on homepage.

- net-wireless/prism54-firmware: Ditto, and package is mirror
  restricted. (How can it be on our install media then?)

Ulrich


  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-23 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-23 10:56 [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license? Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-23 11:15 ` Rich Freeman
2012-09-23 12:04   ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-23 12:10     ` hasufell
2012-09-23 21:37       ` Ulrich Mueller [this message]
2012-09-24  0:36         ` Rich Freeman
2012-09-24  7:02           ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-24 10:46             ` Rich Freeman
2012-09-24 13:15               ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-24 13:20               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-24  2:10         ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2012-09-24 13:01       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-24 13:15         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-09-24 13:25           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-24 13:48           ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-29 19:27             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-09-25 11:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-25 15:30   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-09-25 18:12     ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-25 15:55   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2012-09-25 17:14     ` Rich Freeman
2012-09-29 19:27   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-09-29 21:21     ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-09-29 23:38       ` Rich Freeman
2012-10-03 21:18         ` lists
2013-01-03 14:39         ` [gentoo-dev] Packages without source code (was: Clarify the "as-is" license?) Ulrich Mueller
2013-01-03 15:40           ` Rich Freeman
2013-01-03 22:58             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-04-23  9:39             ` [gentoo-dev] Packages without source code Ulrich Mueller
2012-10-06 14:14   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Clarify the "as-is" license? Ulrich Mueller
2012-10-06 15:24     ` Duncan
2012-11-01 10:12   ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-05-19  8:57     ` [gentoo-dev] Removal of the as-is (so-called) license Ulrich Mueller
2014-05-19  9:08       ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-05-19 18:58       ` hasufell
2014-05-25 14:40       ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller

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