From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71985158086 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 752312BC060; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0A682BC00A for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 16:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 19:56:25 +0300 From: Andrew Savchenko To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print Message-Id: <20211217195625.a14b68e403db09b744001334@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <25230153.1r3eYUQgxm@tuxbrain> References: <2225532.dXl5vgaOU9@pinacolada> <25230153.1r3eYUQgxm@tuxbrain> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__17_Dec_2021_19_56_25_+0300_KTss/ll3i7ON+m9K" X-Archives-Salt: 013584f5-91c2-4176-aa2f-2d1010936300 X-Archives-Hash: 7631edea148e1c718eee3a92ab4ab5bb --Signature=_Fri__17_Dec_2021_19_56_25_+0300_KTss/ll3i7ON+m9K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:00:48 +0100 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: > On Montag, 20. Februar 2017 22:47:17 CET Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Hey all, > >=20 > > 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > >=20 > > Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolu= tely > > nothing to do with network. > > So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware drivers,= (or > > "cups-drv"?) (or maybe "media-print"?) might make sense. > >=20 > > 2) After introducing that, however, "net-print" becomes nearly empty. > >=20 > > On a quick glance, the only *network*-specific packages in there are cu= ps > > and lprng. Maybe one or two more which I dont recognize. > >=20 > > So move cups and lprng to "net-misc" and drop "net-print"? > > Or move them to new "sys-print" as well? > >=20 > > What do you think? > >=20 > > Cheers, > > Andreas >=20 > I would like to resume this discussion on the occasion of a new [shameles= s=20 > plug] package PAPPL that is to be packaged, see also [1], from the point= =20 > before discussion went off on an X-Y categories tangent. >=20 > Here's a list of suggestions made for a new category so far, ordered from= =20 > (seemingly) best- to least-liked: >=20 > media-print > sys-print > app-print(ing) IMHO sys-print is the best variant, since printing often requires system privileges to set it up or change lots of settings. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko --Signature=_Fri__17_Dec_2021_19_56_25_+0300_KTss/ll3i7ON+m9K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE63ZIHsdeM+1XgNer9lNaM7oe5I0FAmG8wTkACgkQ9lNaM7oe 5I1oDw//cwyJf89P+sYq/rh8N9Z9v6SwIZgUpWaMZxmm4RxYr23EOlYuJZ0h35sd 50HGrxRMuMPty8O86/n2lkTOIutu8mImkUOyS1MPIG6aVTYkr0UUZJf2vPcb1kV4 iZhOm5SO4/aShy5Gs6SoyECSxIiqTNwWa3VpENU6YS8Rx3sUGdFRdlLEB3xRaf8r mBk4HPAhYBt/DWLjQX8SeusbXc5ggC0fEmMQ+Rd1uyT8AbID5SIYEAOYrS6vCQqT NHn+Kwwdl+nvhOZ/qESr/v6lRqtW2hzqueWUavGYGurEltrgziFFOVRNMa1ex32/ cQUYfLltm+mKOka8Jchjaz5m+RkhdVsD23ayUouG9bmLJhXYrRDGRIpN0APn9ScZ P1p0C1xCdZ6tLB4cX5eJvQYX9TdOzZ2KJRpTKrq6qo5pAEftweCvhtr8REqb9UxR M1dRRsUcw4gDBzZs4QZ9X6MrhHwv0h/6kdLMO8V/9IdJ5qXbJeqLYJOWXJ6YlLx+ iN0gq3Pis4MqMDfdYCHOxbg0apTR24dd717gJVWSN9isUMO0aIxsMsSqOGGxQDr2 ItAc1al4OPZ2Apa7Rb+FzMTv4QuX3lT7RvnkwsV167CrQH9MT+2S7XWSk7FkutZt KdnpJr2m2q49++uukX8NWyCSpM5i25n2HdKbbuqTStYU3NHYkr4= =tnfd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__17_Dec_2021_19_56_25_+0300_KTss/ll3i7ON+m9K--