From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC8F3138359 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C146E0823; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF4DBE0802 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 20:17:04 +1200 From: Kent Fredric To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Services and software which is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in Gentoo namespace Message-ID: <20200916201704.72ae2902@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <927819c1-3a25-84e7-ff8f-240924dbac8b@gentoo.org> <20200914155206.0c9246ca@katipo2.lan> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.6 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/2qQaSQrk2=GgTh_9V3H/d6Y"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Archives-Salt: 1227ef33-6e43-4f03-9fc3-400c71e78140 X-Archives-Hash: 14bc72383cc9269f6a7056293e941d93 --Sig_/2qQaSQrk2=GgTh_9V3H/d6Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:15:31 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > It might be easier to take smaller steps, such as having a policy that > "any call for devs to use/test a new tool/service, or any service that > automatically performs transactions on bugzilla, must be FOSS, and the > link to the source must be included in the initial communication, and > it must be clear what version of the code is operating at any time." > That is a pretty low barrier to those creating tools, though it > doesn't address the infra concern. However, it does mean that infra > is now free to fork the service at any time, and reduces the bus > factor greatly. For the situation of things that take life before being part of infra, I think the least we can do is recognize their utility and importance, and at least, have infra *offer* some sort of shared location to run a deployment. That I think helps everyone, gives people a place to remove their own bus factor, but without mandatory strongarming. --Sig_/2qQaSQrk2=GgTh_9V3H/d6Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEgdrME8Lrmai3DXYJda6SGagVg7UFAl9hygAACgkQda6SGagV g7UPlQ/+Mx1Ykhb6xwjAv3ntcs7ptWzx0eBYxJrfHQikfAhoRxQfV6bGc0dpkp/D 7994kciGmwlVp7z6ue7rPalnO1HO6QKMuoxkvehidr53D9vWwiAepIHVVZFFsfqq i7CcGjtg9LIZdCnPM04cnmvtsXJzHJHPLbxKVRGGozgC7fBaskAcxbjR9LQXc9az vv3w06vvScPblwBA8O9riTkG48sZb142NbuxAsPgnpE8w2kReeYvYQfz2VDXZFTM 6/XGgxd86z5BT8J/b5JaYI3RvejXL2Btj3PeQueHdMrI3bkfS1v6QbveRBvLk6Xm 5/v3NhJqT2cu37a/eIJ18vDsfMl/S/BP1uA/G5SWEDLM5tWbZJqsJt/wiqRjX/oA 2g7+b4UoSm6G1CDSjnPvc/GVqVLmxiP/5SW9yVGJoJSEUdLMMSLZaDm7SDJqfWtb Hlos0wLrnqXZEdAeNnkUdeP6lGxCjUCqZ///r8ORoM9V0I9oaMkbcspgizDUao4q Dy/uqtkgNnwWQmNsivHDj1kaahnzHP3HEIEq1K/12feNWHeNGcZJIUj6IrUiNTay 6O0wQYOYURffkJfj2XQ/kXoq3jjS0w+a99Dpzq85N5Lu/pPUQuZZcA94kZB0E6j5 yyI80P418AMHvCS4pvutqNXFifs+oXkN6xce8hi1P7U4pSZq/h0= =8LOn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/2qQaSQrk2=GgTh_9V3H/d6Y--