From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CC29138334 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 06:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6076E088F; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 06:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E752E0867 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 06:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from katipo2.lan (unknown [203.86.205.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kentnl) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3D1D34D7B4 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 06:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 19:53:13 +1300 From: Kent Fredric To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade Message-ID: <20191206195313.6c75ab2e@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: <20191205144050.GB5532@bubba.lan> References: <20191205143416.GA3209@icarus> <20191205144050.GB5532@bubba.lan> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/3B1wdk3.dFeMYoe7DEsHXa0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Archives-Salt: 2f5aa735-61c0-45ee-9251-7fbf0576fdd4 X-Archives-Hash: 0fbbe13ef1c1017106dc6e743dfdff38 --Sig_/3B1wdk3.dFeMYoe7DEsHXa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 09:40:50 -0500 Aaron Bauman wrote: > Wonderful response, William. Just because its EOL, doesn't mean it stops working. It just means *support* for defects and security problems is dropped. It doesn't prevent us from: a) vendor patching bugs=20 b) vendor patching security issues So as much as I'm fervently annoyed by needing python 2 on my system and want to get rid of it post-haste, I too think this move is too aggressive. It seems more sensible to me to remove things on the basis of a *credible problem*, not on the basis of a conjecture that one could appear in the future. I'm not averse to change, I just understand for change to be executed successfully, gradual and careful adjustments have to be made. Though I deeply suspect once package.deprecated becomes a thing we can use, we can relegate py2-only stuff there. --Sig_/3B1wdk3.dFeMYoe7DEsHXa0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEgdrME8Lrmai3DXYJda6SGagVg7UFAl3p+tkACgkQda6SGagV g7VF1g//cvMVms7wRcTbJG1MPqs1ITwXOZgBdP/1Jbh4iswNFVXj39U8qnExcfUm 7BzSN0xL5Grf9BZkZKrr27eqpFsw8jinZalnaCWRhQQWJrVzJu8DaVZGHcO74YI/ KyMK3U7kZybx5EoSCYkY1Z2PgXU9B2CNOOM8786f/2GPuVXFlJqJhPLCfBQF6w3L fT+tjAQdR559LWblOnCNkHHW4g9DsOIdpIzldIJmXH4KSNiE93sB0jSJMxRlyuDU fdaX43vIpxzmAbwOR8Q/beqpoo5o8MSWq05eqtoLxZfSYPHn7uWVCAvTxJIn/AeA JZjn3HF26W/DzxicVlbz7XiuCnwCdlKoqWftXQU78mKxIqwfcnMZCfrh7Yx6hQ62 idHPYumkPAR8VvLCfm/BK5mTXOgaNDmaeV3QcxAqaaxjBQmtdFzFtQaTo0gSOD4W R9ThxtuOmtmKHYyvtKd5YY21f5lG2ncFRflQCQXKZXNG9wC5/h/6YwnS0oQ1XAxI 3vkVjFuGyNueryBOQ4MQPtgLS43QolL48GYhJd/pp4yzbMt0W0tRfeF34ttO2FNd BC46IjSSO5FXyhOT99UiQSizDidA6HOY8wqo1/Fh9DIe4wuEZl6mKKPkiY9qBLsv MXXp6vticByoZnk9LxxBYnMZkXg+5JLvIhSKwLCeYRRqA3ywF+A= =G/g9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/3B1wdk3.dFeMYoe7DEsHXa0--