Re: [gentoo-dev] unsanctioned python 2.7 crusade

[Aaron Bauman <bman@gentoo.org>]

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On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 09:34:16AM -0500, William Breathitt Gray wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 09:24:26AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:59 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <zx2c4@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's quite another to mask random packages that have USE flags to
> > > optionally support whatever python 2.7 library. If you're going to
> > > last rites these, talk with the maintainer first, and only then, send
> > > emails one at a time. Doing that en masse isn't appropriate.
> > 
> > ++ - I have no idea if that happened.  For anything USE-controlled it
> > would make more sense to file a bug or mask the package-flag combo
> > itself.
> > 
> > >
> > > On another topic, I'd prefer for python 2.7 not to be removed from
> > > gentoo. Tons of code still uses it.
> > >
> > 
> > I'm sure a million people would share that preference.  I'm not sure
> > what the upstream/security status is of 2.7.  Obviously to keep it
> > around it would need to be reasonably secure, and somebody within
> > Gentoo would have to want to maintain it.  That's basically the
> > criteria for keeping anything like this around.  If somebody stepped
> > up and said "I'm maintaining 2.7 and here is why it will remain
> > secure..." I doubt they'd get a lot of resistance.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Rich
> 
> If Python 2.7 is EOL upstream then it sounds like upstream will not be
> maintaining it any longer; i.e. no more bug fixes nor support. That
> means Gentoo would have to maintain its own Python 2.7 fork if it's to
> remain in the repository. Naturally, maintaining a Python fork is not
> something the Gentoo team is ready to do, so it makes sense to remove
> Python 2.7 now that the EOL date is approaching.
> 
> Besides, the Python 2.7 EOL date has been known since 2015, so those
> python 2-only packages will have had at least 5 years to migrate to
> Python 3.
> 
> William Breathitt Gray
> 

Wonderful response, William.

For the others who are seeking a quick "why? how? when? what?" there are these
links:

https://pythonclock.org/

https://python3statement.org/ <--- This is a fun one. All the naysayers need to
go yell at the projects too!

-- 
Cheers,
Aaron

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