From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10919138334 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D144E09D6; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4081E09CF for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sf (tunnel547699-pt.tunnel.tserv1.lon2.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f1c:3e6::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: slyfox) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD17B34D395 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:28:10 +0000 From: Sergei Trofimovich To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/6] nix and guix GID/UID assignments Message-ID: <20191125202810.0bbecdf5@sf> In-Reply-To: <139dd6ae99d13ddf68aac96c65120d9870620ef0.camel@gentoo.org> References: <20191124124616.691759-1-slyfox@gentoo.org> <20191124132356.5e1021bf@sf> <20191124203504.74937eea@sf> <139dd6ae99d13ddf68aac96c65120d9870620ef0.camel@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 749ac179-e768-4a71-83c6-964780bde10e X-Archives-Hash: 9c1f64363e9c26b72af85b757780c072 On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:24:08 +0100 David Seifert wrote: > On Sun, 2019-11-24 at 20:35 +0000, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 17:19:36 +0100 > > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 24 Nov 2019, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > > > > I interpreted 'reserved' as 'free to use' on > > > > > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/UID_GID_Assignment > > > > Can you tweak it to someting other than 'reserved' so it would be > > > > clear? > > > > > > That's what the "Notes" column was intended for. > > > > > > > I'll use 60001 .. 60999 / 61001 .. 61999. Is it free though? > > > > '60001..65533' claims to also be 'reserved' as well. > > > > > > Debian is also using the range above 60000 for allocations that > > > won't > > > fit into the low range. Theoretically, there is some overlap with > > > systemd dynamic users (61184..65519), but IIUC assigning other UIDs > > > in > > > that range isn't a problem, as long as there are enough free IDs > > > left. > > > > > > Another question, the above are about 2000 users and 2000 groups. > > > Does that imply that we will eventually end up with 4000 packages > > > in acct-{user,group}? > > > > Should be 2000 users, 2 groups. Worst case it's 2002 packages, yes. > > > > For a package manager that likely only 3 Gentoo users in the world use? I'll avoid debating you scientific method of deriving that number. What is your threshold? 10 users? 1000 users? 100000 users? > I don't consider that particularly helpful, and am very much inclined > to oppose that. I'm fine with current use of user.eclass if QA grants nix and guix an exception to use user.eclass indefinitely instead of GLEP-81 layout. -- Sergei