From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81424138334 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDAB4E0A96; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B8E7E0A8B for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whubbs1.gaikai.biz (unknown [100.42.103.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: williamh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E64734C859; Tue, 5 Nov 2019 00:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (nullmailer pid 12539 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 05 Nov 2019 00:17:05 -0000 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 18:17:05 -0600 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: mjo@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Do (old-ish) Portage QA checks comprise policy? Message-ID: <20191105001705.GA12479@whubbs1.dev.av1.gaikai.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, mjo@gentoo.org References: <33564bf19f26e1f99d9efca5d1c15c079c01e3d9.camel@gentoo.org> <20191104194050.GA8555@whubbs1.dev.av1.gaikai.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Archives-Salt: 0e1ace41-8c92-4f68-867a-0b6d8f4cf7ed X-Archives-Hash: d80686d08d58aef1fdc63997b1cdfd05 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 06:17:55PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/4/19 2:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > >=20 > > This is a whole other thread I've been talking about for years, but if > > we want to be concerned about dumping "garbage" on people's limited root > > file systems, there are other things we need to re-consider, like our > > notion that we have to install small files everywhere even though they > > aren't always used. > >=20 > > So, if you want to talk about that, please start a whole new thread. > >=20 >=20 > 1. The idea that we should fix all existing problems before we can > prevent people from creating new ones is ridiculous. I never said that we should fix all existing problems before we can prevent people from creating new ones. I just said that along these lines this is something else I thought we should talk about. It feels like an inconsistency to me. > 2. Those other files don't get installed to the root filesystem on the > systems that we're talking about. I do not understand what you think I'm referring to and which files you are talking about. The way I'm thinking of a root fs is, /bin, maybe /boot, /etc, /lib* and /s= bin. > 3. Those other files generally aren't completely useless. A number of them are in the default installation. --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCXcC/ewAKCRBuVBb0MMRl OMPJAJ0bPPXboGINx4x2hVlISh8pqyv1sgCfcWjxv6nBfKKmyGegXMa1AkHgjqg= =vUCj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr--