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Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:08:15 -0700
From: Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org>
To: James Le Cuirot <chewi@gentoo.org>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News Item: Desktop profile switching USE
 default to elogind
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:03:15 +0000
James Le Cuirot <chewi@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:23:20 -0700
> Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:10:37 +0100
> > Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > 
> > > Anyone else who thinks this should not be restricted to just
> > > desktop profiles?    
> > 
> > I am not aware of any use cases for elogind/consolekit on servers,
> > it's really for machines where you have to distinguish between
> > someone connecting remotely and someone physically using a
> > keyboard/mouse connected to the machine.  
> 
> I switched from consolekit to elogind on my normally headless ARM box.
> It runs XMMS2 and outputs through PulseAudio. Under consolekit, my
> user's /var/run directory would disappear after a while, taking the
> pulse socket with it. Under elogind, I was able to set my user to
> "linger", which fixed the issue. It's not a typical use case but yeah,
> they do have uses outside of desktop.

Which sounds like perfect for a local setup, probably not something
that should be in a generic profile.