From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 764E0138334 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41B60E08C8; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F380FE08BB for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whubbs1.gaikai.biz (unknown [100.42.103.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: williamh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AA7534BDAA for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (nullmailer pid 29791 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:19:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:19:51 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] use.desc: add global USE flag 'split-sbin' Message-ID: <20191016181951.GA29746@whubbs1.dev.av1.gaikai.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <25763900.3IMS5cSOPn@ernie> <86031cc11741c13b354ad85577a1e32c4ca97460.camel@gentoo.org> <0b3627cb08065b8d6d02a1d8826ab316ecdaccd0.camel@gentoo.org> <4fdaaef8-b25f-ee2f-505e-d647251d6af9@gentoo.org> <20191016153923.GA29013@whubbs1.dev.av1.gaikai.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Archives-Salt: a731cb6c-1b51-42e8-9bae-98de71882273 X-Archives-Hash: 84d9f6f7ca22234fd5a709c9d97805ca --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 07:17:09PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019, William Hubbs wrote: >=20 > > Back in the day, the s in /sbin and /usr/sbin meant static, not super > > user. All binaries in those directories were statically linked. >=20 > Where have you found that statement? The "s" stands for "system", > not for "static". See for example [1]. >=20 > Traditionally, these programs used to be in /etc (!), and were moved > to /sbin later. For example, documentation of V7 Unix [2] says that > "dangerous maintenance utilities" live in /etc (and doesn't mention > /sbin at all). >=20 > Somewhat later, in 4.3BSD NET/2 these system binaries are in /sbin: > "system programs and administration utilities fundamental to both > single-user and multi-user environments" [3]. >=20 >=20 > [1] https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch03s16.html > [2] https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dhier&apropos=3D0&sektion= =3D0&manpath=3DUnix+Seventh+Edition&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml > [3] https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dhier&apropos=3D0&sektion= =3D0&manpath=3D4.3BSD+NET%2F2&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml Please read the links I posted before --specifically the comments =66rom Rob. Also, there is this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D3519952 Tl;dr the bin sbin separation is a historical separation that doesn't make sense any longer. William > < --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCXadfOQAKCRBuVBb0MMRl ON8UAJ9LRrSgOmeaisDhMgBR8rKyBwSS0ACfR7sXP0JeEddzRPH10ihEIFx96U8= =vOna -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf--