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[66.68.34.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t7-v6sm1811156oth.12.2018.07.04.10.44.12 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs@gmail.com> Received: (nullmailer pid 30205 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:44:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:44:11 -0500 From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: killing mediawiki Message-ID: <20180704174411.GA30087@linux1.home> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180703173943.GA21852@linux1.home> <20180704192153.3c581352@katipo2.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180704192153.3c581352@katipo2.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Archives-Salt: 98ce094c-5f17-4496-9c94-d5785c02c262 X-Archives-Hash: b07df6e350ab9a217e025881aec89228 --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 07:21:53PM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:39:43 -0500 > William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote: >=20 > > I don't care that we have a wiki, but can we please look into killing > > mediawiki and look at something with a git backend? It would be very > > nice to be able to edit wiki pages in markdown or another similar format > > and use git to control the changes instead of editing in a browser. >=20 > 1. Who are the primary beneficiaries of this suggestion?: >=20 > a. People with expert knowledge of development systems and people > with Gentoo Privileges > =20 > b. End users who may not be experts, in all things development, but > may be able to contribute and consume content. Anyone really could benefit from it. The replacements are wikis, so if you want to edit via the web like you do now, that's still available. >=20 > 2. What compromises in flexibility does this create? Eg: Do suggested > replacements have capacity to have arbitrary HTML and templating? Or > are they restricted to the terribly narrow featureset of Markdown? =20 Several of them support multiple formats, so that would depend on the replacement chosen. > If you're optimising for 1-a and your choice of compromise results in a > reduction in functionality with regards to clear, flexible, and > expressive content, it will be hard to sell me on the idea. Yes I would benefit from this change, but it is not a case of optimizing for one. It is a case of opening up the use of the wiki to the largest audiance possible. This is just good universal design. Thanks, William --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCWz0HZgAKCRBuVBb0MMRl OBRoAKCEe+TsXsqLLyq776jhZDr22krEiACgmjZFU2DhZpr/Jv8AGQdLh/V99gs= =xdNx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb--