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From: Kent Fredric <kentnl@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New Portage fork: sys-apps/portage-mgorny
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:02:55 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180325220255.3f35115e@katipo2.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9804899-d235-b17a-a704-2459c05d39b5@gentoo.org>

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On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:43:41 -0700
Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org> wrote:

> But if the majority demographic is as you describe, then they shouldn't
> be using anything having dependencies that require package.unmask or **
> keywords changes.

Again, they *dont*, the problem is portage makes the mistake of
thinking they do.

This happens especially around virtuals where there is an existing
problem of portage not doing the right thing when perl-core/* exists in
some definition.

I don't have details on hand to give you as to how this happens,
but I've seen this happen often enough around packages *I maintain* and
*I* can't explain why portage is trying to install it, only that
--auto-unmask-keep-masks=y makes the problem mysteriously go away.

The question for me is not "auto unmask is good" vs "autounmask is
bad", autounmask is fine on its own and is very useful.

Its the default of --autounmask-keep-masks=n that I find short on value.

If anything, I suggest there needs to be an
--autounmask-keep-masks=conditional, or something, that narrows the
range of solutions portage will try and only attempt to unmask ** or
package.mask in the following conditions:

- An explicitly masked package/version is explicitly requested on the command line.
- A package is a direct dependency of of the above
- As above, but for the world file

That is, assume the only reason for masked packages to be considered is:
- The user in some way directly requested them
- A logical consequence of the user directly requesting a masked package


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-25  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-22 19:03 [gentoo-dev] New Portage fork: sys-apps/portage-mgorny Michał Górny
2018-03-22 20:17 ` James Le Cuirot
2018-03-22 20:27   ` Michał Górny
2018-03-22 20:31   ` Zac Medico
2018-03-23  1:01   ` Herb Miller Jr.
2018-03-23  8:28     ` Michał Górny
2018-03-22 21:47 ` Consus
2018-03-22 22:06   ` Michał Górny
2018-03-22 22:52     ` Geaaru
2018-03-22 23:22       ` Zac Medico
2018-03-23  8:31       ` Michał Górny
2018-03-23  9:48       ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-23 10:18         ` Francesco Riosa
2018-03-23 10:38           ` Franz Fellner
2018-03-23 10:53           ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-24  7:02             ` Kent Fredric
2018-03-24  8:02               ` Michał Górny
2018-03-24  9:01                 ` Kent Fredric
2018-03-24 12:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-24 18:27                   ` Zac Medico
2018-03-24 20:33                     ` Kent Fredric
2018-03-24 20:44                       ` Zac Medico
2018-03-25  2:26                         ` Kent Fredric
2018-03-25  4:43                           ` Zac Medico
2018-03-25  9:02                             ` Kent Fredric [this message]
2018-03-26  7:48                               ` Zac Medico
2018-03-23 10:38         ` Roy Bamford
2018-03-23 10:59           ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-23 13:27             ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-23 14:25               ` Arve Barsnes
2018-03-23 16:20                 ` Geaaru
2018-03-23 16:23                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2018-03-23 20:16                   ` Georgy Yakovlev
2018-03-23 17:44               ` Patrick McLean
2018-03-26 16:48                 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-03-26 18:36                   ` Zac Medico
2018-03-25 10:13       ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2018-03-28  4:42         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2018-03-23 11:25     ` [gentoo-dev] " Consus
2018-05-19 15:53 ` Consus
2018-05-22 20:35   ` Michał Górny
2018-05-28  2:45     ` Richard Yao

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