[gentoo-dev] things becoming better and better

[gentoo-dev] things becoming better and better

[Toralf Förster]

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honestly.


When I started with my tinderbox 2 or 3 years ago I had often a fair
amount of manual work to made to get an image up and running - moslty
tweaking USE flags to get blockers being solved. This yielded into a
growing list of fixed USE flags settings for certain packages.

But over the time this list became small and smaller and eventually this
month I kicked off the last few lines (famous last words?).

Said that Gentoo has IMO a lot of success stories to tell too (beside
the usual grumblings and annoyances) - and the quality of the Gentoo
tree is IMO an example of that.


/me was just in the mood for a statement like this

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Toralf
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Re: [gentoo-dev] things becoming better and better

[M. J. Everitt]

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On 19/03/18 18:48, Toralf Förster wrote:
> honestly.
>
>
> When I started with my tinderbox 2 or 3 years ago I had often a fair
> amount of manual work to made to get an image up and running - moslty
> tweaking USE flags to get blockers being solved. This yielded into a
> growing list of fixed USE flags settings for certain packages.
>
> But over the time this list became small and smaller and eventually this
> month I kicked off the last few lines (famous last words?).
>
> Said that Gentoo has IMO a lot of success stories to tell too (beside
> the usual grumblings and annoyances) - and the quality of the Gentoo
> tree is IMO an example of that.
>
>
> /me was just in the mood for a statement like this
>
I think I speak for many readers of this list, in echo'ing a big
thank-you for your efforts on the Tinderbox project. Gentoo has been
slow to move to more automated testing methods, and this is a huge leap
forward in this regard. Hopefully, moving forward there will be less
human effort required to extend and maintain the tree of packages on
which we depend, and together with QA, huge strides forward are being
made to achieve this end.

It is quite useful to have a consistent means to test packages, and to
this end, hopefully we can eliminate some of the randomness that having
a very flexible build system creates!

Onwards and upwards ...


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Re: [gentoo-dev] things becoming better and better

[Benda Xu]

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Hi Toralf,

Toralf Förster <toralf@gentoo.org> writes:

> When I started with my tinderbox 2 or 3 years ago I had often a fair
> amount of manual work to made to get an image up and running - moslty
> tweaking USE flags to get blockers being solved. This yielded into a
> growing list of fixed USE flags settings for certain packages.
>
> But over the time this list became small and smaller and eventually
> this month I kicked off the last few lines (famous last words?).
>
> Said that Gentoo has IMO a lot of success stories to tell too (beside
> the usual grumblings and annoyances) - and the quality of the Gentoo
> tree is IMO an example of that.

Thanks a ton for the tinkerbox and for the early bug reports!

This is the crucial way to keep our tree healthy.

Cheers,
Benda

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Re: [gentoo-dev] things becoming better and better

[Aaron Bauman]

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On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 07:48:01PM +0100, Toralf Förster wrote:
> honestly.
> 
> 
> When I started with my tinderbox 2 or 3 years ago I had often a fair
> amount of manual work to made to get an image up and running - moslty
> tweaking USE flags to get blockers being solved. This yielded into a
> growing list of fixed USE flags settings for certain packages.
> 
> But over the time this list became small and smaller and eventually this
> month I kicked off the last few lines (famous last words?).
> 
> Said that Gentoo has IMO a lot of success stories to tell too (beside
> the usual grumblings and annoyances) - and the quality of the Gentoo
> tree is IMO an example of that.
> 
> 
> /me was just in the mood for a statement like this
> 
> -- 
> Toralf
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>

Toralf, first and foremost, thank you!  You efforts have and continue to
be successful for Gentoo.  I would also echo that the tree is much
healthier due to your efforts.  Once again, thank you.

-Aaron

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Re: [gentoo-dev] things becoming better and better

[Toralf Förster]

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On 03/19/2018 08:07 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> Hopefully, moving forward there will be less
> human effort required to extend and maintain the tree of packages on
> which we depend, and together with QA, huge strides forward are being
> made to achieve this end.

Indeed,

automation of QA and other checks is a big step towards to have the tree
in a good shape.

(BTW I like the funny name "croaker" in IRC) - and IMO a lot of
improvement was made in that area.

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Toralf
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