From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C1B7138330 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2715DE0BB6; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-1.ca.inter.net (mail-1.ca.inter.net [208.85.220.69]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD348E0B00 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (offload-3.ca.inter.net [208.85.220.70]) by mail-1.ca.inter.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D062EA8EB for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-1.ca.inter.net ([208.85.220.69]) by localhost (offload-3.ca.inter.net [208.85.220.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gF-55JW6L4fs for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:37:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ca.inter.net (host-45-78-201-206.dyn.295.ca [45.78.201.206]) by mail-1.ca.inter.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ED9F2EA868 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by ca.inter.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:37:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:37:09 -0500 From: Philip Webb To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list Message-ID: <20180110003709.GJ2001@ca.inter.net> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <1685019.DAF74n7IXa@pinacolada> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1685019.DAF74n7IXa@pinacolada> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-Archives-Salt: d2b5202c-d09d-48e8-85c0-67ae83535f92 X-Archives-Hash: 01b37dbea4b6ac1ed4c7e5edec7c5aa8 180109 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was made > to implement changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1]. > These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list > and will come into effect on 23 January 2018. > > * Subscribing to the list and receiving list mail remains as it is now. > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers and > whitelisted additional participants. > * Whitelisting requires that one developer vouches for you. We intend this > to be as unbureaucratic as possible. > * Obviously, repeated off-topic posting as well as behaviour against the > Code of Conduct [2] will lead to revocation of the posting permission. > > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a discussion > on gentoo-dev, > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and ask him/her to > forward your message, > - or ask any Gentoo developer of your choice to get you whitelisted. > [1] https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20171210-summary.txt > [2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct I'm very sorry that Council approved this proposal & hope that it will soon see sense & rescind it. As an ordinary user since 2003, I've subscribed to user + dev lists & have rarely encountered bad behaviour on either : it looks as if a sledge-hammer is being used to crack a nut. I followed the recent discussion here, but didn't offer comment, as there seemed to be little rationale or evidence behind the proposal & I didn't expect Council to pay any attention. That said, I would like to be able to offer my views on the dev list, which is likely to be rarely & will always be polite, as I have done occasionally during the past 15 years . Is one of the devs willing to sponsor me ? -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca