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From: "Hanno Böck" <hanno@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 19:50:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171021195011.55b3ce6b@pc1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAD4mYj58-3pzLgNNeeodgRevcceH7Ufd=OvuRjMtcA+xbaNWw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 12:12:44 -0500
R0b0t1 <r030t1@gmail.com> wrote:

> That is precisely why I didn't suggest it be used on its own (see note
> about extant use of MD5), and why I gave alternatives. If it is
> desired that the hashes be computed quickly then weaker hashes will
> need to be used. One usually can't have both security and speed.

You can have that. Blake2 is faster than any broken legacy hash.
And ripemd isn't particularly fast

> People are discussing collision resistance, but no one here appears to
> be trained in cryptography.

For the record, I'd claim I am.

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Hanno Böck
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-21 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-19 19:08 [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th Michał Górny
2017-10-19 21:00 ` Michał Górny
2017-10-19 22:20   ` Francesco Riosa
2017-10-20 23:38     ` Michał Górny
2017-10-21  1:21       ` R0b0t1
2017-10-19 22:32 ` Hanno Böck
2017-10-19 22:49   ` Gordon Pettey
2017-10-20  9:10     ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-10-20  9:23       ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-10-20  9:31         ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-10-20 12:55         ` Hanno Böck
2017-10-20 13:04       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-10-20 13:32         ` Rich Freeman
2017-10-21  1:23         ` R0b0t1
2017-10-20 22:42     ` Anton Molyboha
2017-10-20 23:03       ` Gordon Pettey
2017-10-20 23:39       ` Michał Górny
2017-10-21  2:56         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-10-20 13:05   ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Orlitzky
2017-10-20 13:26     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-10-20 15:42 ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-10-20 16:15   ` Michał Górny
2017-10-21  8:01     ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-10-21  8:20       ` Michał Górny
2017-10-20 22:21 ` R0b0t1
2017-10-21 16:26   ` Robin H. Johnson
2017-10-21 17:12     ` R0b0t1
2017-10-21 17:37       ` R0b0t1
2017-10-21 17:50       ` Hanno Böck [this message]
2017-10-21 20:11         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-11-08 18:57           ` R0b0t1
2017-11-08 20:01             ` Jonas Stein
2017-11-08 23:45               ` [gentoo-dev] " R0b0t1
2017-11-15 21:02             ` [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes: validation of single hash per MANIFESTx_REQUIRED_HASH Robin H. Johnson
2017-11-21  3:00               ` R0b0t1
2017-11-21  3:15                 ` R0b0t1
2017-11-21  4:19                   ` Matt Turner
2017-11-21  4:28                     ` R0b0t1
2017-11-08 19:01         ` [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th R0b0t1
2017-10-23  8:16   ` [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th: 3 hashes for the tie-breaker case Robin H. Johnson
2017-10-23 11:33     ` Michał Górny
2017-10-23 21:00       ` Robin H. Johnson
2017-10-24  4:04         ` Michał Górny
2017-10-24  4:11           ` Michał Górny
2017-10-24  8:21             ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-10-24 12:01               ` Rich Freeman
2017-10-24 11:56             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2017-10-24 13:25               ` Michał Górny
2017-10-24 21:33                 ` Allan Wegan
2017-10-25  2:40                   ` [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th: one hash to decide them all Robin H. Johnson
2017-10-25 12:32                     ` Hanno Böck
2017-10-25 17:43                       ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-10-28  4:54                     ` R0b0t1
2017-11-13  2:22             ` [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th: 3 hashes for the tie-breaker case Joshua Kinard
2017-11-13  3:48               ` Gordon Pettey
2017-11-13  4:28                 ` Joshua Kinard
2017-11-13  7:37               ` Michał Górny
2017-10-21  2:01 ` [gentoo-dev] Manifest2 hashes, take n+1-th Jason A. Donenfeld
2017-10-21  7:09   ` Michał Górny
2017-10-21  2:08 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2017-10-21  7:09   ` Michał Górny
2017-11-06 16:58 ` Michał Górny
2017-11-06 19:13   ` Robin H. Johnson
2017-11-06 19:25     ` Mike Gilbert
2017-11-06 19:36     ` Michał Górny
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-15 16:28 [gentoo-dev] manifest-hashes changing to 'BLAKE2B SHA512' on 2017-11-21 Michał Górny
2017-11-15 17:47 ` R0b0t1
2017-11-15 19:21   ` NP-Hardass
2017-11-15 20:21     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-11-15 21:15       ` Rich Freeman
2017-11-15 22:10         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
     [not found]         ` <20171115171011.07ffd30a@wlt.obsidian-studios.com>
2017-11-15 22:19           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-11-15 20:14   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-11-15 19:25 ` Nils Freydank
2017-11-15 22:56 ` Michał Górny
2017-11-21 18:21 ` Michał Górny

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