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From: Jason Zaman <jason@perfinion.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Revisions for USE flag changes
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:27:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170817042740.GA17097@meriadoc.perfinion.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <400510bf-a54b-e1ad-cb42-3e094b86bfde@gentoo.org>

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:22:54PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/14/2017 08:01 AM, Jason Zaman wrote:
> > 
> > I'll give an example where revbumps are significantly inferior to 
> > --changed-use.
> > 
> > ...  With --changed-use, only the people who need it (ie selinux
> > users) will rebuild and everyone is happy (selinux users because the
> > program now works and non-selinux users because they did not rebuild
> > for no reason).
> 
> But this benefit exists only for Portage users, and can only be obtained
> by throwing the others under the bus.
> 
> (If you change RDEPEND, you need to create a new revision anyway:
> https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20151011-summary.txt)

SELinux policy packages are not strictly RDEPENDs, portage will label
packages as they are installed properly. if the policy package wasnt
installed by the time the package is installed, you can manually label a
package with rlpkg <pkgname>. but obviously having things jsut work is
better. and they arnt DEPEND because you dont need them to build the
package.

Any i know of no selinux users using other package managers. There are
no policies for them so they wouldnt work anyway. so no really throwing
them under the bus. I dont think the other package managers label
packages properly during install anyway even if there was a policy
written.

So there still isnt a reason to revbump a package when 99% of the world
will not want it.

-- Jason


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-17  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-11 23:50 [gentoo-dev] Revisions for USE flag changes Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12  0:45 ` Brian Evans
2017-08-12  0:59   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12  1:04     ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12  1:11     ` Brian Evans
2017-08-12  8:39       ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-08-12  9:58         ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13  2:52           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-08-13 10:11             ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13 10:18               ` M. J. Everitt
2017-08-14  1:34                 ` Duncan
2017-08-16 20:12               ` Daniel Campbell
2017-08-18 14:50             ` Duncan
2017-08-13  5:01           ` [gentoo-dev] " Hans de Graaff
2017-08-13 10:38             ` Michael Orlitzky
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     [not found]                   ` <CAJ0EP43YbX-vA5cWcFm_Etin4H31Nq2s_xYsrTwuOK6LVyW+9A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <CAJ0EP42HkoYEkL1vt=Lyt-Dw-1XkdAXed8DrBp4oYB9j01+PKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-13 17:28                       ` Mike Gilbert
2017-08-12  4:22 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-08-12 10:16   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12 10:58     ` Michael Palimaka
2017-08-12 10:32   ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-12  5:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Hans de Graaff
2017-08-12  7:03 ` Michał Górny
2017-08-12  9:57   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12 10:04     ` Toralf Förster
2017-08-12 10:29     ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-12 11:05       ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-08-12 11:18         ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-14 12:01         ` Jason Zaman
2017-08-16  3:22           ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-16 15:56             ` Duncan
2017-08-16 16:09               ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-17  4:27             ` Jason Zaman [this message]
2017-08-12 14:14       ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13  2:32         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-08-13 10:08           ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13 16:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2017-08-13 16:12   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-14 16:29     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-08-14 16:21 ` William L. Thomson Jr.

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