From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 752EE1396D0 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 16:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05910E0D1A; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 16:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x235.google.com (mail-oi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A85E2E0C56 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 16:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-x235.google.com with SMTP id x3so67344565oia.1 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 09:06:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=6y0hZZJYMJrAMsXvOYkiu4oGjnyKx8MKlZRKjcaPp3A=; b=Ub7zBren9idX41uDv1sdeirCFT/Yv5aRHEavIsXDdIqFmQjZMy8k5S9njdNJwSF9+C 2LH6iQ2ysK/whUQXelUuHzpGT4Aezt17C+EjE/t6FTAVoRjuYM6/WeRoiQOo+A6XxV7Z Oqf1fhTSYmM2UrIpmGsx4Hxi2jsqSEsZIpMlhiecRPoQRmP3wEuEbf5Pgcas2PIJ8YUl bDGaf4V/KYIo1FHKLwgi2RMwlLXjpN+NNPcPOlk/XOI+VD+Ee8Y19Uq+PaSYTOQ0o/re yDZvjJpxHaZYHc+yVtQcbTiqlpDCyWUncR4X+i7rvs2e2zBxbNyPf4S0ptNIbKirr4Rk /2SA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=6y0hZZJYMJrAMsXvOYkiu4oGjnyKx8MKlZRKjcaPp3A=; b=szDVrc9GMctxPDM9bjrwk+mmMFCy5F9rIsQNph0QyU80IM4kchWd6Sz6aJzDkAm0uN sWwU0c/qK/1lY3sPu9GvfDZ0t6hdsJpaNi8obkEAa7s/rDzaMc1dkJEaTFjUUdlaOmY9 Uyt/rT3zN0oORKmPTjnfvLX34Sqw0s1R+eZnQjzyx9PN/hcn/8/wMNDscbr6XiHUrjJH x3n4I7lj7tgM9g8q3gE85a10Jo1eBfQzzEUfdzNJyGekYqzrixq3qaJMj68NYSAZI2C9 L7l9XnIJNXgpVcL5y9ghvpypYUIErp1e6TouAObLKqoxp7vopPBQz9KmJ352Ok/z3WBQ Zj8g== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5j5Yznr4xg9mxcrTA6fNtYptyQ3kjTE0SNPLtReueA7MIXjiduJ 9E3b9kkXZPC+EuNj X-Received: by 10.202.10.1 with SMTP id 1mr25887320oik.67.1502640386728; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 09:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-66-68-34-247.austin.res.rr.com. [66.68.34.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o11sm6389001oig.23.2017.08.13.09.06.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 13 Aug 2017 09:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: (nullmailer pid 29854 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 13 Aug 2017 16:06:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 11:06:25 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisions for USE flag changes Message-ID: <20170813160625.GA29656@linux1.home> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-Archives-Salt: fb26a219-2619-4fa5-9bc5-d5cf2b97a032 X-Archives-Hash: fc0512b168c6381a6ff8fd6fd2bbddac --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 07:50:14PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > =3D=3D tl;dr =3D=3D >=20 > We would be better off with respect to IUSE changes and revisions if we > deleted the --changed-use and --newuse flags right now, and just > required developers to revbump when changing IUSE. >=20 > Package managers get simpler, documentation gets simpler, the user > interface gets simpler, and behavior becomes more uniform and predictable. >=20 > Please let me know what you think. There is a down side you didn't talk about -- more work for the arch teams and for us in terms of stabilizations. When we revbump, a new revision automatically gets ~ keywords on all arches unless we make an exception. If a revision changes iuse but could still be built with the stable tree, I would want to be able to commit this type of revision directly to stable. William --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTVeuxEZo4uUHOkQAluVBb0MMRlOAUCWZB4/AAKCRBuVBb0MMRl OG4aAJ9M4i6HClw9nlDn36w2vBjm2AXA5gCeNVNvnsca6Yz8+Sb06Z1r6/QkLHk= =C3pP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X--