From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A7BE139694 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BD0F27400E; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x243.google.com (mail-qk0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29EF3214004 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-x243.google.com with SMTP id q66so10151950qki.1 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:30:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=bJIwJtyDutEqULkZCYDE0shNAlGrW0bMO1nimE3IW4U=; b=lnp1fA1l9zSgutD0PhHve8gBlenilbU5qlpglqv05/9C3Y38TpcbEYIY3GISPWqBR6 +3W4jXsYAeZ9MSd4c843D6Xrb5PzNPcWK0SdEMTWhlnidQmGNMDKxttsyksca7t7rEV2 87RyT7z6+UTxo2WvTr4F6OwoDU6zAy6yRon7SEX7Ml5S6YBvW+RoPpf/RNtfup8CbFf6 g/IBL8gHoy2DvbzC5pp/fM+HwvlC2YxVApEabVccindFTJBIf7F1Ew56ecq1p/ADNWPp XDno0tJtjAsgk3uuHte3JxeCcB0L9NllUk7Of3x3ly5x8V7l5b+IE9wVa3mTuM9/SYjB xtOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=bJIwJtyDutEqULkZCYDE0shNAlGrW0bMO1nimE3IW4U=; b=O1SLfAcaDxPg9Ei1uuoXI2azLTTNGFPtuZu09CCQECrBgEitHYArCs8BaXjr04M+SF L0iyOM14WE+5M5ikw7XHmX6jE8cEIL6W0wBrtBGtE+45EJIi1/aQhVbiYoP4ikbVPPEC AXDqpNcQkaA6yzHCj2DSSru07RkazX2quD5UHc3ImPcDDcwL1BN2bXxC6U7fTbMn2Wzw tybHIf46OHaRrWPRkB2siYhuQ9/QmVxVOmitSvq7FfuHziiYZxKbcrLLP22YzdkY5P4W FyHZqS86sLSMLGVVjrVHdTvf+n3A1/JUgHVRzAYZYWMT2ot6aoLwEy2CE/HC0p31shv7 FTkw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112gTU+5+rHU6VD9i+41QTwP+fTgpYSdqlhXJkbckNCmqccTz5/G XoGZvOLB6OWUn1O6 X-Received: by 10.55.161.13 with SMTP id k13mr8250198qke.168.1499988605308; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whubbs1.gaikai.biz ([100.42.103.5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k138sm112689qke.41.2017.07.13.16.30.04 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: (nullmailer pid 26702 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:30:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:30:03 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: openrc-0.28 mounts efivars read only Message-ID: <20170713233003.GA26685@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20170712154236.GA10286@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <23f293f8-1fe9-7fee-d300-51796537d6ee@gentoo.org> <20170713135223.GA31706@linux1.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170713135223.GA31706@linux1.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-Archives-Salt: d0dba11f-53d5-4c99-bc86-ad9663dcd8b9 X-Archives-Hash: ab5debad02711841d6a2358b90e994bc --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:52:23AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:30:12PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns > > > about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpected= ly. > > >=20 > > > Here is the newsitem covering this change. > >=20 > > Although the changes seems sensible, I'm wondering if a news item is > > necessary for this case versus other documentation and script updates to > > reflect this change. For one thing it seems it will have minimal effect > > on a running system and not needing a migration path / configuration > > updates except in cases where bootloader installs are done; how > > intuitive is the feedback in this process when it is read-only? >=20 > I have no idea; I've never used an efi system. >=20 > For people who are not using efi systems, and as long as you don't mess > with your boot loader, you are correct that this change means nothing. > There is no migration path and nothing really for a user to do. >=20 > This is already documented in NEWS.md upstream and in the ChangeLog. >=20 > I can spin up the release in an hour or so, and if there is no need for a > newsitem, I will consider the newsitem canceled. No one objected to me putting out the release, so it is now available. I'll give another 24 hours for someone to tell me if they think we still need a newsitem. 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