On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:58:29 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote: > > >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to > > >> start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd > > >> behavior here. > > >> > > >> While it seems like a good idea I'm not sure how big an improvement it > > >> is in the larger scheme. We're worried about root accidentially > > >> modifying efivars, but we have no safeguards against root writing to > > >> /dev/sda, and the latter seems much more likely to cause harm, and is > > >> harder to fix. > > >> > > > In case you weren't aware, Rich, rewriting the efivars actually writes > > > to the system BIOS, which renders the computer completely unbootable .. > > > not quite the same as erasing the boot sector of your hard disk, where > > > you simply plug in another device, and Off you go ... > > > > > > > We are actually talking about protecting people who run something like > > rm -rf /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/ as root. > > > > If you are dumb enough to do something like that, you almost deserve > > to spend a couple hundred on a new motherboard. > > Or just rm -rf / > [pedantic] > of course with newer rm versions one needs to run: > rm -rf --no-preserve-root / > or > rm -rf /* /.* > [/pedantic] > > But in some scenarios this command is normal. E.g. user installs > Gentoo from some live dvd/flash, makes some mistakes, understands > that system is broken beyond repair and decides to start over again. > If there is no need to recreate filesystem itself or partition > layout, running rm -rf / as above is quite reasonable. > > When running this command user expects to kill the data, but not > the hardware. That is my point. I can't call such action dumb. One more example: remember the bumblebee install script bug[1]: due to a typo the whole /usr was removed, the same may happen with /sys one day. If simple file removal results in dead hardware this is no go. [1] https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/issues/123 Best regards, Andrew Savchenko