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From: "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 23:22:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170712032212.GA20982@waltdnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <assp.0365a48598.20170711165721.3854b912@o-sinc.com>

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 04:57:21PM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:27:57 -0700
> Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > Portage's fault. If you don't want a package added to a set or world,
> > you'll need to use the -1 (--oneshot) option.
> 
> Did you even read above? I clearly state WITHOUT -1 option....
> 
> > I added it to my default
> > emerge options in make.conf for exactly that reason (clean world);
> 
> The point is people should not have to do such. Or remember to always
> use -1 when re-emerging a dep, system, world, or set package.

  Step back for a minute, and relax.  There is a reason you're getting
blowback.  You're asking for changes that would affect everybody else.
This is similar in principle to what Lennart Poettering did, and you're
getting the same reaction he got.  I understand that *YOU* want changes
to how Portage works on *YOUR* machine.  No problem.  Set
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS in make.conf.  If you want excruciating detail on
--depclean then check the small script I posted elsewhere in this
thread.  Portage has many customization options; use them.

  If you can't be bothered to use available customization options to set
up your machine to your liking, but ask for a change of defaults that
also affects everybody else, don't be surprised at the negative reaction.
You would've gotten a much better reception, if you had gone to the
gentoo-user list and asked "How do I tweak Portage to do this, that, and
the other".

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-12  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-07 16:32 [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:36 ` Lucas Ramage
2017-07-07 16:40   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:48 ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 17:05   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 17:31     ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 18:19       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 20:38   ` James Le Cuirot
2017-07-07 20:41     ` NP-Hardass
2017-07-07 20:43     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-07 20:53       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08  2:21   ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-07-08 22:34     ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-08 23:09       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 23:24         ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-08 23:39           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 23:49             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-08 23:58               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  0:10                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-09  1:23                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  7:42                     ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-09 13:53                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10  3:42                         ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-08 23:35         ` Zac Medico
2017-07-08 23:46           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  1:30             ` Zac Medico
2017-07-09  1:39               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  4:30                 ` Zac Medico
2017-07-09 13:58                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-07 16:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Evans
2017-07-07 17:01   ` Brian Evans
2017-07-07 17:07   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  0:27     ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09  1:29       ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-09 10:19         ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09  1:32       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-09  9:24         ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-09 13:49           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10  1:37             ` Walter Dnes
2017-07-10  4:43               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 18:59                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:07                   ` Brian Evans
2017-07-10 19:15                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:25                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:28                         ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:36                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:39                             ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:45                               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:48                                 ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 19:52                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 19:55                                 ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 20:27                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 20:30                                     ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 21:42                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 22:08                                         ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 23:22                                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 23:37                                             ` [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 20:27                                               ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-11 20:31                                                 ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-11 20:57                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11 21:32                                                   ` Daniel Campbell
2017-07-12  0:05                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  4:17                                                       ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  4:43                                                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  5:00                                                           ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  5:14                                                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  5:19                                                               ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  5:36                                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  5:49                                                                   ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12  6:06                                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  6:40                                                                       ` Sam Jorna (wraeth)
2017-07-12 14:19                                                                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 15:03                                                                           ` Sam Jorna
2017-07-12 15:14                                                                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 16:07                                                                               ` Gordon Pettey
2017-07-12 16:23                                                                                 ` M. J. Everitt
2017-07-12 16:38                                                                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 18:29                                                                                     ` Pacho Ramos
2017-07-12 16:35                                                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-15  8:34                                                                                 ` Raymond Jennings
2017-07-17  0:01                                                                                   ` Aaron W. Swenson
2017-07-12  3:22                                                   ` Walter Dnes [this message]
2017-07-12  3:43                                                     ` M. J. Everitt
2017-07-12  4:01                                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  4:00                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
     [not found]                                                     ` <20170712000024.1956a714@o-sinc.com>
2017-07-12  4:06                                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  4:23                                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2017-07-10 20:36                                     ` Ben Kohler
2017-07-10 20:47                                       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 20:55                                         ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-10 21:40                                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-10 22:24                                             ` Michał Górny
2017-07-10 22:47                                               ` Gordon Pettey
2017-07-10 23:05                                                 ` Michał Górny
2017-07-10 23:56                                                 ` [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> " William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  1:12                                                   ` R0b0t1
2017-07-11  1:14                                                     ` Raymond Jennings
2017-07-11  1:23                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-11  1:42                                                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  1:29                                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  2:03                                                       ` Rich Freeman
2017-07-11  1:09                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-11  1:35                                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-11  9:14                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-07-10 21:21                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2017-07-11  1:10                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2017-07-10 19:39                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12 15:21       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-08 22:20 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-07-12  0:22   ` William L. Thomson Jr.

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