From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 807CF139694 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24566E0D5E; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0223E0D47 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from katipo2.lan (unknown [203.86.205.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kentnl) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97B0834177A for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 02:38:27 +1200 From: Kent Fredric To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Addition of a new field to metadata.xml Message-ID: <20170603023827.0d4531fa@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: <2816064.Ipx2b8F6kQ@note> References: <20170602130903.334b0d03@katipo2.lan> <2816064.Ipx2b8F6kQ@note> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/u.I/5Mi4Di=LuYZEJ6AXeSf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: cef6f86e-86ae-4659-bc44-25f71a52d7fc X-Archives-Hash: bdcee7959bf26458381b3ba853856d85 --Sig_/u.I/5Mi4Di=LuYZEJ6AXeSf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:07:44 +0700 "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" wrote: > Shouldn't we mention "debug" USE-flag in this context somehow? Not sure it should. Even though one package may be the logical equivalent of a handful of debian packages, doesn't mean there's going to be a useful USE <-> package mapping for such things. Maybe debug seems more obvious, but, well, with Gentoo, you don't actually = *need* a USE flag for that: You control that via CFLAGS and the FEATURES=3D"splitdebug" options. USE=3D"debug" *changes the compile* and introduces source-code level enhanc= ements, that can change the resulting binary parts. Whereas the debian equivalents are just the equivalents of our splitdebugs = rolled up so you can debug stack traces with gdb, if I remember correctly. eg: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/vlc-dbg/filelist=20 In hindsight, maybe -dbg mappings might not make sense, and should be disco= uraged. Otherwise you're gonna need to add a descriptive field of some kind to the = data, and at that point, it gets really hairy. I have ideas how you get around that, but it moves away from en= tirely, and that's really just over-complicating it. --Sig_/u.I/5Mi4Di=LuYZEJ6AXeSf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEPZazbI/qrFT1o9rn6FQySxNmqCAFAlkxeHAACgkQ6FQySxNm qCBSIg/6ArwcdhLwrgnc9gOccmmrmseya56qCFJ8WpylC10isqO+b2YCiLs5s/sc /QWxyyWni0vPU0o1B4cHUAPv6VrclP1uaOd8OF/xuTuklw584coI2ouTtWcDDoOG c+I0XrlOKa2whSsUO1gHnVFhPmstdSAgEEn/RB0NBJN+kfiIV14Yl4SxGJ6Nz57d fvIBybGq2vMHvBBFuJ945LkdCCXH/a7L8JoF4g+gSj5nZX/DVpI++L+5kuFn/c/1 NJMO/3dJABF73bLI1Q0H+jDolvAv7IPH2LdX4FGGm6nAmNyYW9gb0gJ3VVaMSM/j SDWbywd5c/OsJ+KPQ3OvIqr4BXRfaJ09AEsuHknz6FE+CspCGeTebu6SXmB9gZE2 hlSELsET8zZdVRSNetZ5mlRKnJpBTEHELnPBKFWFrbiPiwQrXfzug84b3URw49CD xROTV6V5QLc2F3MhoSIt076U2Z3NHQWrheTtOEXLGY4ndjcD2GN4J0OMxyGp6P7x 6TVxiecN0zk35xYpHX//RmhJ09Mz9LGLrZ+OIZDSYBs8GxYX78MuRHrUZjiX8BWN zrtQWzQ9Tj4lz4phehLqEX7ECZUMRPrOwijFMZPdZN4/XBCOZLvnDUPrLJAx0NAV Mhw8gTdsS6uzYLPeWD3dkR9f/NbN9P8jrJYU3WgmxJt1eO6vJlg= =p2/I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/u.I/5Mi4Di=LuYZEJ6AXeSf--