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From: "Hanno Böck" <hanno@gentoo.org>
To: Matthias Maier <tamiko@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 23:18:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170509231820.6228c56f@pc1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k25p92d3.fsf@kestrel.kyomu.43-1.org>

Hi,

On Tue, 09 May 2017 15:55:36 -0500
Matthias Maier <tamiko@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Well, Alexis certainly makes a strong point. Breaking installed static
> archives by changing a use flag shouldn't be as easy as changing a
> useflag. So we might simply use.force the pie use flag depending on
> hardened/non-hardened profiles.

While I understand that enabling pie requires some more planning to
avoid breakage, I hope this is not the final solution we aim for. I
really think it's about time that pie becomes the default in Gentoo.

pie is required for working ASLR, which almost every other OS out there
has these days. In recent years also Fedora, Ubuntu and lately Debian
switched it on by default. I really think this should be a default
security setting, not something that only lives in hardened.

-- 
Hanno Böck
https://hboeck.de/

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-09 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-09 17:26 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp" Matthias Maier
2017-05-09 20:10 ` Alexis Ballier
2017-05-09 20:27   ` Mike Gilbert
2017-05-10 12:53     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2017-05-09 20:55   ` Matthias Maier
2017-05-09 20:59     ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles: Mask pie useflag for >=sys-devel/gcc-6 Matthias Maier
2017-05-09 21:18     ` Hanno Böck [this message]
2017-05-09 22:47       ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp" Alexis Ballier
2017-05-09 23:13         ` Matthias Maier
2017-05-10  7:34           ` Alexis Ballier
2017-05-09 23:40         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2017-05-10  7:24           ` Alexis Ballier
2017-05-10  7:28       ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2017-05-10 13:20         ` Matthias Maier
2017-05-10 13:31           ` James Le Cuirot
2017-05-10 13:35             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2017-05-10 13:38               ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-05-10 15:26         ` Hanno Böck
2017-05-11  9:55           ` Martin Vaeth
2017-05-10 20:31         ` Luis Ressel
2017-05-11 18:37           ` Martin Vaeth
2017-05-09 23:44   ` [gentoo-dev] " Andreas K. Huettel
2017-05-10  5:07     ` Jason Zaman
2017-05-10  5:58       ` Matthias Maier
2017-05-10  7:23     ` Alexis Ballier
2017-05-10  9:31       ` Kent Fredric
2017-05-09 23:58 ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp", v2 Matthias Maier
2017-05-10  7:52   ` Alexis Ballier
2017-05-10  9:19     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-05-10 11:58       ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2017-05-10 13:29         ` New profiles for default-pie transition (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp", v2) Andreas K. Huettel
2017-05-10 13:42           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: New profiles for default-pie transition Kristian Fiskerstrand
2017-05-10 14:24             ` Alexis Ballier
2017-05-10 13:49           ` Matthias Maier
2017-05-10 15:32           ` New profiles for default-pie transition (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp", v2) Hanno Böck
2017-05-10 16:07             ` [gentoo-dev] Re: New profiles for default-pie transition Matthias Maier
2017-05-11 23:39   ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp", v2 Walter Dnes
2017-05-12  0:19     ` Matthias Maier

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