From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A8FA139694 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7959AE0E10; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23E3FE0E06 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from katipo2.lan (unknown [203.86.205.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: kentnl) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 904153416BF for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 02:00:20 +1200 From: Kent Fredric To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Providing consistent means to enable tests requiring Internet access Message-ID: <20170429020020.228276b1@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: <1493386635.3838.0.camel@gentoo.org> References: <1493302453.1189.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170429012507.0deaf24c@katipo2.lan> <1493386635.3838.0.camel@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/imN2O0Z8I51Oj0EmeW0PO1C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ab25dee0-3383-47a7-a2f8-16f23fb1bd87 X-Archives-Hash: 62d8a2111a90eb631506163bcfb248d5 --Sig_/imN2O0Z8I51Oj0EmeW0PO1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:37:15 +0200 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > Congratulations, you've just completely discouraged me from pursuing > this any further. I don't have the time or the resources to solve all > the problems in the world, especially if I don't give a damn about > them. Its not that I don't want a solution here, but this has been something that has long bothered me, sufficient I want to eventually see this turn into a future-EAPI proposal. I think if I was to say there is something we can do today for this, I'd use a non-use variable to regulate it, expressly so it *cant* be used in SRC_URI or DEPEND perl-module.eclass has such a feature already, if an end user specifies DIST_TEST_OVERRIDE=3D"do parallel network", certain tests stop being disabled ( though doing this globally will turn on a lot more tests that are currently disabled for non-network related reasons, and force parallelism where its not warranted, so said feature is still a poor model to adopt verbatim in a global way ) But trying to decide on a shared ENV var that has default mechanics and default implications and is enforced by portage quickly gets into GLEP/EAPI territory anyway. --Sig_/imN2O0Z8I51Oj0EmeW0PO1C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEPZazbI/qrFT1o9rn6FQySxNmqCAFAlkDSwUACgkQ6FQySxNm qCBoJQ/9G3MzU+JA0+SRrMnIRlNtg8AOUuz+fBwHpiQrxBwP0QqT5AWyRGLKeylO P3+7Qw2/2ZjAI6bv7xMSVJs1sT77YpHeG89AGOUbMWQ4zG3ahIXOI1reyaI55I/t miOyGBap+kGc1aR0SZd1/z0IBdGtNNRvkWiOS6dGaWck4zSOiOijXc0uKx148Ove YP0ShQ4HndqFGhSSgPfMWd5tgM+6xxeQoFhLUFNymIVBsTDHfNhdbhM0++Xf4+V1 Avff60ajTqft6HU/8LyjLdn4vLdQ6FXxmJZ+kqvOr5eim+KVzCihRm4nONsuc72Z T9aAPODM3AZU7TvuxHO/hRvpJHMZyMfJSTGxJQP7pSaGITAGjsN1lt0K9nYdKLNM /61fUVeaGfyoIUSvOiBi8yYZpRDK6sU2CuHDvsfL0/iLCJ/lhaLKlAaWu+Yd139Y pDbQM5FNNuS3bCklzDmRH1vngHAXUplWM8TuNQlu+MW9lO+FD64XDV6YE6iOgxNO EhIJqZ7Mos8tS9CU/VkNvt1eBt/sxxr79WnGFf9fzkR3lIp3X02NEB8ywXgqtY3p 5ItBG/5TQE+vewm7Q3ybB+3oLzZB4KwJWZKXcLDm1g4Vu9LJ+1nFrlK76+kvounO udUl+cRDD8svTHlYO9dJkBSHO8w7cQ0jfkNzlpc/Gt9VsI6a//k= =fVCA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/imN2O0Z8I51Oj0EmeW0PO1C--