From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFD59139694 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08C0621C200; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A142921C124 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e34:eeaa:6bd0:4ecc:6aff:fe03:1cfc]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: aballier) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3DDB234165D for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 22:42:40 +0100 From: Alexis Ballier To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] sys-devel/autoconf: Convert from eblits into an eclass, #586424 Message-ID: <20170323224240.27e19ecd@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <1605d79d-845d-c6eb-93d9-0828a1a663e1@gentoo.org> References: <20170316093806.31977-1-mgorny@gentoo.org> <20170320083544.GZ24205@vapier> <2240597.YoP4Ev77Vx@porto> <1652433.oqbzW57v8l@porto> <20170323105101.0f622f66@gentoo.org> <1490288005.1534.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170323195213.406ba9f8@gentoo.org> <1490295612.1534.3.camel@gentoo.org> <20170323212254.1bb17f3d@gentoo.org> <1605d79d-845d-c6eb-93d9-0828a1a663e1@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: cf2fc607-f0a8-4c20-a629-8243267d8b60 X-Archives-Hash: 82d09b3ff70bffaa4b529e5c4d713741 On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:20:59 -0400 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/23/2017 04:22 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > Indeed, according to pms.git commit log, the rule was laxed because > > it was clearly an oversight in EAPI6 [1] and was the standard > > behavior in previous EAPIs. But in the same commit, an "harmless > > note" was added that "Ebuilds must not access the directory in > > global scope." in addition to the "May or may not exist" statement > > and "Not necessarily present when installing from a binary package" > > footnote. Please explain how this last addition is not a > > backwards-breaking change. PMS is not a tool to push your personal > > agenda of cleaning up the deve^^err tree. > > > > > > [1] > > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/pms.git/commit/?id=fa4ac9474048ec75af138fc61f22485c06aac5b7 > > > > Read that diff again. Before the commit, FILESDIR was invalid in > global scope (only valid in src_*). This commit makes it valid in > global scope, but adds the "... don't access it there" clause. > > It's not a breaking change because any behavior affected by the > clause was already illegal before the commit. If we were to stop thinking and follow the rule by the letter: What are we waiting for to file bugs for every package having ${FILESDIR} somewhere in global scope then ? After all, those are the council approved versions and EAPIs cannot change. Or you can read again the first sentence in the part you quoted.