From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2648139694 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74B9521C205; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CC5F21C1D6 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (dra13-4-78-234-166-189.fbx.proxad.net [78.234.166.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: aballier) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EB2B34112A for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 00:12:28 +0100 From: Alexis Ballier To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] sys-devel/autoconf: Convert from eblits into an eclass, #586424 Message-ID: <20170317001228.61776495@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <22730.62018.390657.576233@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <20170316093806.31977-1-mgorny@gentoo.org> <22730.25568.382258.703491@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20170316131911.25e49c7d@gentoo.org> <22730.35784.80741.247631@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20170316194209.62bdc737@gentoo.org> <22730.62018.390657.576233@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 886aa553-d014-4cd5-a28f-101f33c8a416 X-Archives-Hash: 1fcdc88d586abc6b0d0e9c60902faf24 On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:14:58 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > What do you consider demand ? > > > A handful of packages that have to write a hundred lines of > > boilerplate code to make it work isn't representative of any demand > > at all. I've already written in some bug some usecases I foresee for > > even a trivial 'include'. > > See https://bugs.gentoo.org/586420#c20 (and especially the IRC log > attached there) for my opinion on the matter. > > The pre-GLEP on per-package eclasses stalled in 2010, before it even > reached the draft stage. From this I conclude that the demand cannot > be so pressing, otherwise someone would have picked it up in the > meantime. While your conclusion is definitely right, that has never been a reason to discard new features. A lot of, probably most, additions in every EAPI didn't have many pressing adopters. Some of them proved near to useless, others are now must have.