On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 07:41:42PM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> On 2016-08-24 19:07, William Hubbs wrote:
> > I do not plan to drop runscript at this point, that will happen when
> > openrc-1.0 is released, which will be a while yet.
> 
> ...and that's the reason why I don't think this needs a newsitem.
> There's _no_ problem and no _immediate_ user interaction is required.
> 
> I would only adjust the current warning from
> 
> >  * /etc/init.d/test uses runscript, please convert to openrc-run.
> 
> to
> 
> > * /etc/init.d/test uses runscript and must be converted to openrc-run
> > * For more details see /usr/share/doc/openrc-*/openrc-migration*

Since OpenRC is used outside of Gentoo, a warning like this would have
to be:

* /etc/init.d/test uses runscript and must be converted to openrc-run
* For more details see the OpenRC NEWS file

because we don't know where or if the file will be installed by
downstreams.

> In "/usr/share/doc/openrc-*/openrc-migration*" we describe _why_ this
> was changed and tell them that all files in FILESDIR were already
> migrated so chances are high that
> 
>   # emerge --oneshot -av $(grep -l '/sbin/runscript' /etc/init.d/*)
> 
> will replace most runscripts with migrated scripts.
> 
> If the user has already done that he/she should check which packages
> owns the runscript (qfile /etc/init.d/foo) and should file a bug against
> that package.

We can't really put anything distro-specific in the news file, because we
don't know how distros will handle it.

> Finally add a note for package owner (don't forget user's repositories!)
> and tell them what they need to do (which line must be changed, show
> example before and after the migration).
 
 Something like this could go into the upstream NEWS file easily enough.

> And as additional help sys-apps/openrc ebuild should start scanning for
> "/sbin/runscript" usage in pkg_postinst and show an ewarn with text

I wouldn't say that the OpenRC ebuild should be concerned about this,
but I believe there is a check in repoman for it.

> 
> ...once an openrc version without "/sbin/runscript" will be released we
> will have to release a newsitem before because _then_ we really require
> user interaction and must force people to take notice.
 
 Probably so. In theory, there won't be too much to worry about at that
 point; I plan to delay a while before I do that.

> PS: And don't forget to fix the warning from /sbin/runscript to honor
> "--quiet". If this bug wouldn't exist we wouldn't talk about a newsitem
> at the moment ;-)
 
 heh, I think we still would be talking about a newsitem because the
 messages still appear during bootup, but yes I'll look at this.

 William