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From: Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org>
To: Kent Fredric <kentnl@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:57:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160811115718.474f475d@patrickm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160811175331.1ffdef04@katipo2.lan>

On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:53:31 +1200
Kent Fredric <kentnl@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 00:10:53 +0100
> James Le Cuirot <chewi@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE
> > 8 as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves,
> > install it as libpcre.so.3. With Ubuntu still being the most widely
> > accepted "standard" Linux desktop, this presents a problem when
> > dealing with pre-compiled binaries.
> > 
> > I have been working on a script to replace the rather lacking
> > steam-games-meta ebuild (see steam-overlay). I'm very excited about
> > releasing it soon as I think it is a major step forwards in our
> > ability to easily run Steam without the official Ubuntu-based
> > runtime.
> > 
> > Before I put it out there, I'd like to get Alien Isolation working
> > properly. It links to libpcre.so.3. Hacking the binary might work
> > but this isn't ideal and not always an option as some games use
> > Valve's anti-cheat system, which is ruthless.
> > 
> > I have found that creating a symlink in /usr/lib that points
> > to /lib/libpcre.so.1 works, except that when you run ldconfig, it
> > automatically creates another symlink from /usr/lib/libpcre.so.1 to
> > libpcre.so.3. If you create the first symlink in /lib instead then
> > the existing /lib/libpcre.so.1 holds after running ldconfig. The
> > latter location is therefore probably preferable.
> > 
> > Would anyone have any issue with adding this to our libpcre
> > package? I don't foresee any problems. libpcre.so would obviously
> > still point to libpcre.so.1. I'm pretty sure there will never be
> > another libpcre.so.3 as upstream have released PCRE2 as libpcre2,
> > effectively an entirely separate library.
> > 
> > I could create a Steam-specific package for this but that would mean
> > adding some additional Steam-specific location to ld.so.conf, which
> > I'm trying to avoid. It would be nice to solve this generally
> > anyway.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> >   
> 
> I'd say this is the sort of thing that has more application than just
> steam.
> 
> I'd just suggest a libpcre-debian package, which provides the .so via
> symlink and dependency mechanisms.
> 
> That way *if* anything happens in the future, we can just introduce
> blockers in the right place.
> 
> Then the applicable stuff depends on libpcre-debian for the forseeable
> future.
> 
> And this way, if debian do anything else magical, we can probably copy
> them and build a libpcre like they do for interop.
> 
> Essentially, the point here is to see debians libpcre is a competing
> implementation, even though we can locally pretend they're not at the
> technical level, it works as " conceptual model " for the problem we
> have.
> 

This sounds reasonable to me, that way we have pseudo-universal
handling of this for everything that needs it. The people who object to
adding stuff to support binary packages can just not install the
libpcre-debian package.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-11 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-10 23:10 [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian James Le Cuirot
2016-08-11  5:53 ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-11 15:41   ` Mike Gilbert
2016-08-11 18:57   ` Patrick McLean [this message]
2016-08-18  5:45   ` Daniel Campbell
2016-08-11  9:43 ` Ulrich Mueller
2016-08-11 10:11   ` James Le Cuirot
2016-08-11 10:56     ` Ulrich Mueller
2016-08-11 11:20       ` James Le Cuirot
2016-08-11 11:49         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-08-11 12:04         ` Ulrich Mueller
2016-08-11 12:13           ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-11 14:57       ` Mart Raudsepp
2016-08-11 15:03         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2016-08-11 15:05         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2016-08-11 15:15           ` Mart Raudsepp
2016-08-11 19:56           ` James Le Cuirot
2016-08-11 20:07             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2016-08-11 21:34               ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-11 22:00                 ` Mike Gilbert
2016-08-12  1:19                   ` Mart Raudsepp
2016-08-18  6:06                     ` Daniel Campbell
2016-08-11 20:50             ` Michał Górny
2016-08-11 21:30               ` James Le Cuirot
2016-08-11 21:55               ` Mike Gilbert
2016-08-12  0:27               ` Patrick McLean
2016-08-12  0:32                 ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-12 14:12                   ` james
2016-08-12 15:39                     ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-12 17:40                       ` james
2016-08-12 17:48                         ` M. J. Everitt
2016-08-12 22:36                           ` Rich Freeman
2016-08-12 17:55                         ` Kent Fredric
2016-08-11 16:23 ` james
2016-08-11 16:32   ` Mart Raudsepp
2026-08-13 18:27     ` james
2016-08-11 18:02       ` Matt Turner
2016-08-11 18:27         ` Deven Lahoti

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