From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C34913832E for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0CC721C0DF; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA99821C06B for ; Sun, 7 Aug 2016 14:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([94.25.229.88]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M2L60-1bDm0H2IEe-00s9c7 for ; Sun, 07 Aug 2016 16:10:37 +0200 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 17:09:04 +0300 From: Consus To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs Message-ID: <20160807140904.GA4941@daphne> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20160806211255.GI12988@foo.stuge.se> <49994385-FEB7-4951-B324-ED1BC66899D4@gentoo.org> <20160807073824.GA1030@daphne> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:IHwt/EzVE1+aWM5ABnDtKwxGDp7Ejrd8OQAj91QnGcweL5hb8Fi yr2zf1zGwsk6ttO5GuCc603cElFsXEF1Ym3g7slqPXniEZezYfYDkhFSO7s9r0L5v1mwDsc ybbYv45xuFMqpxdPNB5dM7K+qhnHziY9a0WK3nBvA3I5RKFsheShbE+f8twsGkKfZIlN8LI KKC1HKhNmVFPHvQbvS3rQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:TfZ6oHCQZ2w=:CIqbVlmAHOHKHM9LS44Ubq 9hr3IzUXWGLnUlV1iddd6lwPlLhJe+uRWmAsYNxN2JGhKlU358xyFYV/d4Pg5ZkGw7ZeNDjff XKiW0V449ewvlo+i/6JQlHC7Xf326W7ME10b2xYmKF6UQmSB8K8rtVCINziDndCAbU1uPfxpH X6yfInvoSF7SIwQEBF2Uvsi+5xKlG0WxXnDz0UX3Cx+Yt1j0s4hc52ubSGXUnQANzSZYx+Hi/ TkWPTVBw/l9RQ4xuQc2M0ooUOA9uA3WdOZ4KJtQQfGELjAC8MFO6RdWRFehCcMMoiKY3fXbOq uBfAjmrLMGsYsvgTfvK8kRmEbys1NAYw6NMt5rq6pKG9qjC8Eo6PNFAOBqgk5oyax35zGsKmt L+Yb9z7iCt5PuB89JriaVUm+chC+HSXJ7/sVYttNwcBnXEG0S48xM5SR+9AZ3rejJPP4zfs+f SfqdfHtRUw0WDKRUvGiYDortWKjLx41JANeaoGsBpcH9Hcr3udif3x3whqeSvI/tdHXuKjavq jhQHIkz+WNcH/9MY02/IfHOY3Fo0zA3pfjRMSsi4GdWGkc/s/s24huCd1sb/6bsLq94TGmaJR 9R75MTy6KwBn5jetGa/Ln0dyt2rndW2UrpAKZHP1JW2wZtc7VWslZOdyIkWx/w6urSFea9sTi c28gzvZD2n5a2OS8MtY7qHxjnok03mkqYmoyA28WQVBMZmuAdJv4aGWEH7X8GS2zsgVL0mpSx TBsmq7cVvam38wlObehxQpHuw/bspiclXlq3LRHLWKncLjZpRjL4TVZjYqlHH7l7/ieNZJEVi MOTwhy0 X-Archives-Salt: 410f8e45-e184-4b2c-8df9-2b487412e1ec X-Archives-Hash: 27e04102c9e5f29822c0543aa89891a9 On 08:24 Sun 07 Aug, james wrote: > On 08/07/2016 02:38 AM, Consus wrote: > > On 08:48 Sun 07 Aug, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Sure we do. In the meantime, nobody uses gentoo anymore because it > > > still can't deal with accepting contributions and in the meantime the > > > few last developers retired, and users long ago switched to the > > > comparatively recent distribution of Debian stable. > > > > Finally the voice of reason. > > Reasonable? Are you kidding? > > > In this day and age, quick installs are the mantra, either for VMs or > containers or workstations, particularly for application-specific-servers or > a variety of security apparatus. Although the 'handbook' is an excellent > reference guide and noob-filter, the simple fact of the matter is most (nix) > professionals consider the gentoo install system to be arcane and an > incredible 'cost barrier to entry'. THAT, the lack of a well thought out, > smooth, quick/easy install which is intentionally not available, because it > is seen as a satanic idea, is the 800 pound gorilla on why folks > passionately avoid gentoo..... Err... On that one I agree. How the hell does it change the fact that GitHub improved contributions?