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* [gentoo-dev] Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff
@ 2016-06-29  7:07 Alexey Shvetsov
  2016-06-29  7:26 ` Andrew Savchenko
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  0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Shvetsov @ 2016-06-29  7:07 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: Cluster

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Hi all!

I'm going to revive RDMA fabric related things in gentoo. And since its not 
only about infiniband staff but about more generic fabric types there is and 
idea to rename category sys-infiniband to more generic name. Suggestions are

sys-rdma
sys-fabric

What will be inside? It will be RDMA related stuff like OFED, fabric userspace 
drivers (verbs, psm, psm2, libfabric and others), plugins for specific devices, 
tools to flash RDMA cards and other related staff.

-- 
Best Regards,
Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov, PhD
Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics
FSBI Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, NRC Kurchatov Institute,
Leningrad region, Gatchina, Russia
mailto:alexxyum@gmail.com
mailto:alexxy@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru
mailto:alexxy@gentoo.org

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff
  2016-06-29  7:07 [gentoo-dev] Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff Alexey Shvetsov
@ 2016-06-29  7:26 ` Andrew Savchenko
  2016-06-29 11:34 ` Aaron Bauman
  2016-06-29 13:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Holger Hoffstätte
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Savchenko @ 2016-06-29  7:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:07:07 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I'm going to revive RDMA fabric related things in gentoo. And since its not 
> only about infiniband staff but about more generic fabric types there is and 
> idea to rename category sys-infiniband to more generic name. Suggestions are
> 
> sys-rdma
> sys-fabric
> 
> What will be inside? It will be RDMA related stuff like OFED, fabric userspace 
> drivers (verbs, psm, psm2, libfabric and others), plugins for specific devices, 
> tools to flash RDMA cards and other related staff.

If sys-fabric name will be used, stuff like sys-cluster/knem
should go there too, imho. Probably this is not what intended, so
sys-rdma seems to be better name.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff
  2016-06-29  7:07 [gentoo-dev] Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff Alexey Shvetsov
  2016-06-29  7:26 ` Andrew Savchenko
@ 2016-06-29 11:34 ` Aaron Bauman
  2016-06-29 13:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Holger Hoffstätte
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Bauman @ 2016-06-29 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 4:07:07 PM JST, Alexey Shvetsov wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I'm going to revive RDMA fabric related things in gentoo. And since its not 
> only about infiniband staff but about more generic fabric types 
> there is and 
> idea to rename category sys-infiniband to more generic name. Suggestions are
>

That would be wonderful, especially with the longstanding security issues 
against sys-infiniband/*.  Bugs 438444, 438446, 463338.

I hope your project goes well.  :)

> sys-rdma
> sys-fabric
>
> What will be inside? It will be RDMA related stuff like OFED, 
> fabric userspace 
> drivers (verbs, psm, psm2, libfabric and others), plugins for 
> specific devices, 
> tools to flash RDMA cards and other related staff.
>



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* [gentoo-dev] Re: Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff
  2016-06-29  7:07 [gentoo-dev] Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff Alexey Shvetsov
  2016-06-29  7:26 ` Andrew Savchenko
  2016-06-29 11:34 ` Aaron Bauman
@ 2016-06-29 13:19 ` Holger Hoffstätte
  2016-06-29 13:46   ` Alexey Shvetsov
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Holger Hoffstätte @ 2016-06-29 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:07:07 +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> I'm going to revive RDMA fabric related things in gentoo. And since its not 

Yay!

> only about infiniband staff but about more generic fabric types there is and 
> idea to rename category sys-infiniband to more generic name. Suggestions are
> 
> sys-rdma
> sys-fabric
> 
> What will be inside? It will be RDMA related stuff like OFED, fabric userspace 
> drivers (verbs, psm, psm2, libfabric and others), plugins for specific devices, 
> tools to flash RDMA cards and other related staff.

This makes me happy. I've been playing with a standalone libfabric in my
overlay via the sockets/UDP providers, and had nothing but problems when I
tried to add USE flags for the various OFED bits (psm2 etc.)

An up-to-date libfabric that pulls in ofed only when needed would finally enable
people without the otherwise necessary fabric HW to write against the much more
usable & sane (when compared to raw IB verbs) libfabric APIs.

As far as the name is concerned IMHO fabric sounds less RDMA-specific;
I think the OFI WG now also prefers implementation-neutral terms.

cheers,
Holger



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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Infiniband/OmniPath/iWARP and other RDMA related staff
  2016-06-29 13:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Holger Hoffstätte
@ 2016-06-29 13:46   ` Alexey Shvetsov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alexey Shvetsov @ 2016-06-29 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: Holger Hoffstätte

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В письме от среда, 29 июня 2016 г. 13:19:06 MSK пользователь Holger Hoffstätte 
написал:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:07:07 +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote:
> > Hi all!
> > 
> > I'm going to revive RDMA fabric related things in gentoo. And since its
> > not
> 
> Yay!
> 
> > only about infiniband staff but about more generic fabric types there is
> > and idea to rename category sys-infiniband to more generic name.
> > Suggestions are
> > 
> > sys-rdma
> > sys-fabric
> > 
> > What will be inside? It will be RDMA related stuff like OFED, fabric
> > userspace drivers (verbs, psm, psm2, libfabric and others), plugins for
> > specific devices, tools to flash RDMA cards and other related staff.
> 
> This makes me happy. I've been playing with a standalone libfabric in my
> overlay via the sockets/UDP providers, and had nothing but problems when I
> tried to add USE flags for the various OFED bits (psm2 etc.)

Thats is the part of plan =)

> 
> An up-to-date libfabric that pulls in ofed only when needed would finally
> enable people without the otherwise necessary fabric HW to write against
> the much more usable & sane (when compared to raw IB verbs) libfabric APIs.
> 
> As far as the name is concerned IMHO fabric sounds less RDMA-specific;
> I think the OFI WG now also prefers implementation-neutral terms.

In current state i also preffer to rename it to 

sys-fabric 

and put all interconnect related stuff here (yes sys-cluster/knem  and sys-
cluster/open-mx also should go here)

So if there will be no objections i will do move in next 2 days

> 
> cheers,
> Holger


-- 
Best Regards,
Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov, PhD
Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics
FSBI Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, NRC Kurchatov Institute,
Leningrad region, Gatchina, Russia
mailto:alexxyum@gmail.com
mailto:alexxy@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru
mailto:alexxy@gentoo.org

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