From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-75152-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F9A59CAF for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FF3821C084; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 668B121C078 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from red.yakaraplc.local (host213-123-185-55.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.123.185.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chewi) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAA41340BFD for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 8 Apr 2016 11:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 12:41:17 +0100 From: James Le Cuirot <chewi@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] usr merge Message-ID: <20160408124117.0bf5c564@red.yakaraplc.local> In-Reply-To: <57079677.9010900@gentoo.org> References: <57067172.49cbca0a.693b1.ffff9909@mx.google.com> <pan$7ccf5$4b00782b$ed32390c$5ee7f155@cox.net> <CAGfcS_k4gXfYWmzJJfPFop1-QVR9J55Lu5pbReD0sNLDiuoe9Q@mail.gmail.com> <20160407154636.GA26596@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <CAGfcS_=81Rh0eOzW7z6Wvshid+jNx+3_7v2f=WiHbjGi5iipBA@mail.gmail.com> <b717674a-feb4-4979-90fc-31f6f3fd57eb@gentoo.org> <5706A7A6.3080402@iee.org> <CAGfcS_m1Cu8+Sc7gw04bDysdfsZAC_PV-tf3GjV0GDk1A_rSqg@mail.gmail.com> <CAGDaZ_ppOCqCrmkqGJgHaifiyq-N+FPEA8DEa63W20W-FK0nKg@mail.gmail.com> <57070bbd.9a48620a.a07cf.3177@mx.google.com> <57070c95.0714320a.ed102.1995@mx.google.com> <CAGfcS_mb+xHQdx0vciVNV6pCuFiuuZjY2s8BsG24+H6tqpcBEA@mail.gmail.com> <57079677.9010900@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0cd7b6eb-29fa-4cb1-a9c7-68e73d223f41 X-Archives-Hash: 25bc813c21a07f371e7270b1701c7027 On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 07:31:03 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 4/8/16 6:14 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:42 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> > > wrote: > >> > >> There was a bypo here. "the ebuild" should be upstream. The default > >> installation location of all coreutils binaries is /usr/bin, then > >> we move everything around in the ebuild. > >> We are deviating from upstream in this example. > >> > > > > Keep in mind that following upstream and the /usr merge are somewhat > > orthogonal. You can just install those binaries in /usr without > > merging everything over. > > > > The only issue is that without the merge anybody embedding a path to > > these binaries would have to fix their packages. Presumably to aid > > the transition a symlink (at the file level) would be needed for > > some period of time. > > @anyone, can you list the reasons we're doing this (I'm sure there's > more than one). If systemd if one of them, then I'm confused because > debian has switched to systemd and yet has not merged usr. Not that I'm for or against the merge but note that openSUSE, which has also switched to systemd, hasn't done the merge either. -- James Le Cuirot (chewi) Gentoo Linux Developer