From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-75041-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0A059CAF for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86FA5E0884; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:33:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87488E087A for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39011340E23 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:33:02 -0400 From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 00/21] gen_usr_ldscript: migrate away from a sep-/usr by default Message-ID: <20160401183302.GO6588@vapier.lan> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <1459382320-20672-1-git-send-email-vapier@gentoo.org> <95d3d986-aecd-47f1-85c7-fd47be8ffd39@gentoo.org> <20160331160728.GH6588@vapier.lan> <1ca1fc7d-c610-4221-9a5d-91c829b2f635@gentoo.org> <20160331181952.GJ6588@vapier.lan> <28ef45dc-2141-4847-ab0c-26b1a5566063@gentoo.org> <20160401015818.GM6588@vapier.lan> <f5af5c68-ca68-4de8-b7dc-f04aea131634@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kwi6FlFxZJ9sO95h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <f5af5c68-ca68-4de8-b7dc-f04aea131634@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: e49ff66b-c702-43c1-ad85-4f1201b027b1 X-Archives-Hash: 07b93e9ce99dca270caea3f7e62e280f --Kwi6FlFxZJ9sO95h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01 Apr 2016 20:00, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Friday, April 1, 2016 3:58:18 AM CEST, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> ... > >> lemme look it up for you then: > >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Council_decisions > >>=20 > >> systems with separate /usr should be supported. However, users=20 > >> shouldn't be=20 > >> constrained from using software which doesn't support that. -- 04/2012= =20 > >> meeting ... > > > > "being supported" !=3D "enabled by default". so no, i still don't see = any > > requirement in anything you've cited that this be turned on by default. >=20 > you're right, but you know, before you claimed the contrary of what was= =20 > voted and then decided to argue whether a 4 years old council decision=20 > applies or not here, my point was, and still is, that such council=20 > decisions make me think you're confusing what *you* want and what *we* (a= s=20 > a project) want for this case i see no significant number of people clamoring for this as the default. the bug that started this has everyone on board for changing the default. it's really no different either from the install process today: a stage3 cannot be unpacked & booted directly. a user must configure it before it can actually be used. if that means enabling USE=3Dsep-usr, then so be it. there's no reason to force this legacy behavior on the majority of people when a split-/usr is uncommon. -mike --Kwi6FlFxZJ9sO95h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW/r7eAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBCccQAKPQIssm4rM+MoOYKboLleJa LbDQLKHPKN047zYHFOSAG9QVsrvHXV2kvqchweu+PbL4nstEJ5MOS3UNaavrp/F2 qFy/wew4cE/MPLG7GqF5Whbw2Ik5nl1wrApLKkvawQm3K6r3ipF4nVx3Rgqf8WYG jbHfnVIZzQC0ZMasQ1G996yswvePfaQcORQ1+pPJ/hjdevJraJSPXc9Z44ww3vaO MbzczslajWFqN2BCgVCJfQunEFc/Mtji9rHTIPCfFFueEslMJS7PCY7OEzuIdazJ /uejetpnHLQjgbiv2zprMk3mDiagxlH/9g7NUXQMsFD27mHk9k1uuxTe/XN6aCRr X6gAG/cyXYgmvJCeY2uwsAeKyxpOgXQ7Zsb9C43NHneQY7tFNpE5+TslgWcA4kDm /phXSKOLlJDY7xM0jEBG/vXmdew1ylZj3FTZArg9HLbUsqDkMSPUCIyKfDQp3aSb 3Rb951rjuPnsW+0Xcjx93KL9HV1C0BUvZFIVHRK52ob2EnglSaYpvP5S9bCvVY2B 7kDJlwQ1E8wKCokIJol2WzdQJ5TsphURq3X1mFajbixcqvoeJ1VXHfgD01ezPiqt uSjIUvBQgNViJcSNW0+SLMAj7rFsHNdEK/Wuz+n33m0JQMTLkG20QnQXWHjc5DWi qWSao9QB9jGxpwWzzCfA =HSRI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kwi6FlFxZJ9sO95h--