Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider

[Brian Dolbec <dolsen@gentoo.org>]

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On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:16:41 +0100
Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:57:31 +0100
> Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 02/16/2016 08:33 PM, Michał Górny wrote:  
> > > This all is going into some bickering nonsense and noise made by
> > > systemd haters just to feed their troll, FUD and whatever else
> > > they made around here.    
> > You call it hate, I call it having a choice.  
> 
> You have a choice. This is trying to force your choice on everyone
> else just because you hate the other option and don't want anybody to
> be using it.
>

NOT EVERYONE, just make it the non-systemd default, htere is still
choice to change to to whatever...

> > >  Because certainly
> > > project that is created plainly for political reasons is better.
> > > Because it will certainly be technically better if people have to
> > > focus on copying regular udev maintainers and reworking their
> > > changes to keep them working on forked codebase.
> > >
> > > And after all, as someone said, this will give eudev proper
> > > testing.    
> > (1) It's already used by lots of people
> > (2) 'proper' testing? As opposed to be the default in more than a
> > dozen distros that have usecases you and I rarely think of?  
> 
> Are you really serious with those fringe distros? How many of them
> have a dozen users that do not happen to be developers of the distro?
> How many of them are actually used in production? How many of them
> have diverse enough userbase to prove that eudev works in different
> environments?


Now you are starting to spout incomplete truths from being riled up,
not thinking things through.

Since you consider them to be just a dozen or so...

In the 8 months where I am working now, they use eudev for all their
installs.  This includes more than 50 different server profiles and
resulting images.  Those are multiplied out into multiple instances in
each rack and server clusters distributed in many places around the
world.

So a real world example puts it over a 1000 units (guesstimate) in daily
production. Plus several hundred more on the development and
testing clusters. Plus several hundred (minimum) workstation and
developer vms.

In that 8 months in the release engineering team, I've not seen one
email or bug report that has been due to a problem with eudev.  If
there were I did not see it pass thru the group communications channels.


So, there are lots more eudev users out there than the few dozen you
seem to intimate to.


Can we please put an end to this thread!!!!!  ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!
-- 
Brian Dolbec <dolsen>


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