From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A252A59CA3 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A82F021C007; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92C7BE07F5 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B312340B9F for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 15:39:37 -0500 From: Mike Frysinger To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing order of default virtual/udev provider Message-ID: <20160214203937.GG7732@vapier.lan> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <56B936DB.1010407@gentoo.org> <56B939C4.20804@gentoo.org> <56B978C3.2020304@gentoo.org> <56C099EE.8020401@gentoo.org> <20160214114131.62b2deb8.dolsen@gentoo.org> <20160214202326.GE7732@vapier.lan> <56C0E430.7050503@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iTrWFMUu8wG1LMqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56C0E430.7050503@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 1e87d2ef-63bc-4210-9eb1-2a739a0f8f60 X-Archives-Hash: 656d3ecaca8e4b00e389c6ea375d94e3 --iTrWFMUu8wG1LMqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14 Feb 2016 21:31, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 02/14/2016 09:23 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 14 Feb 2016 11:41, Brian Dolbec wrote: > >> On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 11:00:30 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > >>>> If, for any reason, eudev should be abandoned - we can just change > >>>> the virtual back. One-line change. =20 > >>> Which is precisely the corresponding argument for not switching the > >>> default to eudev in the first place. > >> OH, my, this is looking more like you are being paid by systemd peeps.= =2E. > > honestly ? cut the crap man. > > > >> You are just refusing to acknowledge these simple facts. > >> > >> systemd.................: irrelevant to this decision > >> > >> standalone systemd-udev.: Vehemently unsupported, support for its > >> capability to exist is planned to be punted > >> in the future. > >> > >> eudev...................: fully functional, actively developed, > >> and fully supported, mature project, been > >> around for years. > > udev: it's the default in every major distro that everyone tests and > > develops against. > Not the standalone config we're using, so if you remove all > systemd-using distros which are irrelevant to this discussion you end up > with gentoo, and ~15 distros that use eudev. And of course other > irrelevant weirdos that use mdev, vdev etc. > > > > eudev: no one of any relevance outside of Gentoo runs it. > No one runs udev either. So that's a non-argument >=20 >=20 > So given the context of this discussion, and your ignorant contribution > ... maybe you should cut the crap, man. Being a bit more polite wouldn't > be wrong either. yes, your e-mails in this thread are a shining example of how to collobarate and make cogent arguments. attacking people directly is definitely how you "win". it's too bad i haven't actually done any of what you're attempting to slander me with here. -mike --iTrWFMUu8wG1LMqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWwOYJAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WByV8P/0PKr8+QVk9gVgI5n8FrylPT 6DI/pCxK0+K85oQ0sI0lN9Z8qSwfppdeWU9RQcVLSHySN/8z8TdohHdOPfWheYgZ TamPN9JPiDFK5VFFrxYJ08FUFmyBkvaTPqysvTGCRkilg1SeJ4cNcu5S+58LftA1 yOqj5cAbn9GvDVZVjbCRLao5xSIG2kTN33w7D+L5ZifHbGPUIGdslWH5UtoszIPU EEPXIE/7qrL3FWVdpBESG3f1GLjxPqmUcBHf5akJLCGdkKNyTBo2Zca5FveKYVMX pkGd9jXn7WYY3VgfsD4AhkPCGfYH5m37Ydl80dfgnGypknfi/GBcTOegiPbn/O0u vUY6P/OuifFxZwji8WsZhK0/PQfzKQksLlwz4i1zOyZ/6ni713TDFHGKDEKVkkKi TltnuTNI9JIitM3ItehZ5Ma1xI0LERB20P1E9XyXoKjucxCkBoavInzryIqK+MYe jAHkyhtLCLmZDrOMuR6w2J5kUW9rRZZPnafxc6CiEmD33qDkKO/QJBnZOmqrjJzr sgbUoYqEWJAcZlpWDLyLanb0HURGfGjISUiMJus6pMZ8rGq4DxU4yxopx9hVdyrF 7Y7rBnxXWCYuWxQSfURcnTxEKLaXjhHSiTX9+QyFBtH8yHrAKeArwhzaY0nLAlZV jUC7dEL9KIkO3pf0j0dC =1YDH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iTrWFMUu8wG1LMqc--