Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFD] Adopt-a-package, proxy-maintenance, and other musings

[Ian Delaney <idella4@gentoo.org>]

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:30:14 -0800
Daniel Campbell <zlg@gentoo.org> wrote:

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> On 01/21/2016 02:41 PM, waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 06:45:20PM +0100, Micha?? Górny wrote  
>  [...]  
>  [...]  
>  [...]  
> > 
> > I think you misunderstood Roy.  He was speaking about
> > "unmaintained but perfectly functional software".  You're talking
> > about "a package that clearly doesn't build or otherwise simply
> > doesn't work, could not have worked for past 3 years".  Between
> > those 2 extremes will be many cases of
> > doesn't-work-for-me/works-for-me.  Who'll be the final arbiter?
> > 
> > Maybe we should start a "gentoo-ebuilds" mailing list to help
> > regular users learn the ins and outs of making ebuilds.  Once
> > regular users run a lot of their own ebuilds from their local
> > overlays, then it would be possible to do draconian pruning of the
> > "official portage tree", without so adversely affecting regular
> > users.  This would fit in with the mantra of Gentoo being about
> > freedom of choice.
> > 
> > E.g. I use Pale Moon, a fork of Firefox.  Currently, I have to
> > build as regular user, su, and copy the binary to /usr/local.  You
> > can see "Walter's excellent adventure" <G> as I learn the build
> > process at... 
> > https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=10002
> > 
> > I'd like to have Portage manage the process.  The ebuild from
> > Firefox should serve as a template, because they both use the same
> > weird Mozilla build setup.  The main change should be where the
> > source is pulled from.
> >   
> 
> The idea sounds nice, but there's already the devmanual to cover
> ebuild development, and now that the gentoo repo is in git, any
> ebuilds that get treecleaned can be fetched again through history, and
> users can then add those to their personal overlay(s) and keep the
> piece if they break.
> 
> I like the idea of encouraging people to learn good ebuild writing,
> but who really has the time and skill to teach it?
> 

me. Been doing it for months. You had not noticed? via
#gentoo-proxy-maint, which I made from scratch, despite the notion
initially being discounted by one mrueg. He now is a colleague in the
channel.

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> Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer
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kind regards

Ian Delaney
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