From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634F458973 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F21A621C037; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f48.google.com (mail-wm0-f48.google.com [74.125.82.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB70421C02A for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f48.google.com with SMTP id r129so109426720wmr.0 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:42:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MHCyTy/F1qjBcqJ5Ve2weibUmeNi3PtqOohDYVQO1QQ=; b=NLGM57xjm9a/Hjl65lnV6xr0WiX6BMPd6ldV6wB+UCBpZiFGgG1kuGsk53Lf9BULMM DBjock38mFb+AoW/X57DnXuXp7McbAe3AdeUT8VB+wk1BEavf8nsPGGyH2wuuAEdGZzH OMfVRPBf5aG80K1xB4+NPeKBaaWZLessPMnjJvQlY7jjYXIcUHxrB5wHwRFuyIEHUYvI wrTNZJSf+mnYByaSdkJz/ctxzN95OGCbyatBru9TuqiZBu3BNibq7ucncbMxf2abU5gf 1LdVZDU3xkpgnWSzjOJRbT433w6m8RgwXP160iRFs2oeNS6Q3KJTX146TaMT9aCOqjPw iQjw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MHCyTy/F1qjBcqJ5Ve2weibUmeNi3PtqOohDYVQO1QQ=; b=Ke5mnlMCKCrwMARPQNzf+jqVuaxIkU0PfKD4B28cXFXOVDHzIT3IzZMgHVltfCUVeg FsiRczuFlTlHjWe7VWia01huXhfdOl12SbLIRM5uNUgLABoByAeF7FNL2O5pa939mNaj 1ix7YSb4FKR5tFJHiNev4rybJISFz4ag+0yoKQQHiA7FJZ/D/t1MnvI6VDcxHcyEh7it +ws/Iar05CVMvOF2TFRQovmI0rui6Rubdo4elOdd9e1cKj0e3vNAa2MU2W3J9zc4EgbB 6+EL8OoIPsE0aRmyKWllxCFxgXokz+9sZXpHcJ/AVw5535FqSDdaEzgQAJD1k0+KBkj5 Pkig== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn/jd2hmk8JeWe6Kfb4ZOlcWCTlyTWaK6LIUUIHWL6llBoor5b1od/CP/ktc6aooENU523gAzpzTUcN8iqsFqEwxncJ/A== X-Received: by 10.194.157.3 with SMTP id wi3mr32096613wjb.30.1453243375502; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowflex (cpc7-broo7-2-0-cust205.14-2.cable.virginm.net. [86.30.215.206]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 193sm22327775wmg.16.2016.01.19.14.42.54 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:42:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 22:42:50 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFD] Adopt-a-package, proxy-maintenance, and other musings Message-ID: <20160119224250.6eb04117@snowflex> In-Reply-To: <20160119233230.58ded831.mgorny@gentoo.org> References: <569DCD51.6000501@gentoo.org> <20160119233230.58ded831.mgorny@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e95bfa94-302d-4140-abda-7d0ba747df4c X-Archives-Hash: 23abb65dd315324dc9f403ad90a7957b On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 23:32:30 +0100 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > The problem was, is and will be that packages are unmaintained. Not > that stats show that they are many. No it's not. Gentoo is about the community, and it's important for the community not to perceive that there is a problem. Being honest where users or Phoronix could pick up on it is bad PR. Let's not create a toxic perception of the state of the tree. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh