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From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] utilizing BASH_COMPAT to smooth upgrades
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:51:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151020225104.GK3918@vapier.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22054.47670.476853.951929@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>

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On 21 Oct 2015 00:03, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> 
> >> EAPI 6: Bash version is 4.2.
> 
> > do we want to mandate the BASH_COMPAT aspect in PMS ?
> > or at least make into a recommendation ?
> 
> If I understand [1] correctly, coverage of BASH_COMPAT is incomplete:
> It only changes incompatible behaviour back to the old version, but it
> won't disallow using new features.

correct.  it would help when code changes behavior like when =~ changed quoting
behavior and we had to scramble to tweak its usage throughout the tree (although
it was more external programs than eclasses/ebuilds).  but if you're running
bash-4.3, setting BASH_COMPAT=4.2 would not keep code from using things like
${VAR^^}.

> Therefore I'd make it a recommendation at most. Something along the
> lines of: "The interpreter is assumed to be GNU bash, version as
> listed in table xyz, or any later version. If possible, the package
> manager should set the shell's compatibility level to the exact
> version specified."

and include the recommended snippet as well as add a warning about not exporting
the variable less it break external shell scripts.

> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/431340#c20
> >   local maj=4 min=2
> >   if ([[ ${BASH_VERSINFO[0]} -lt ${maj} ]] ||
> >       [[ ${BASH_VERSINFO[0]} -eq ${maj} && ${BASH_VERSINFO[1]} -lt ${min ]]) ; then
> 
> Why the subshell here?

it can be dropped.  was purely for grouping/line wrapping, but || gets you that.
-mike

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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2015-10-17 12:19 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] EAPI 6 draft for review Jason A. Donenfeld
2015-10-17 12:21   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2015-10-17 12:24   ` Michał Górny
2015-10-17 12:28     ` hasufell
2015-10-17 12:52       ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-17 12:56         ` hasufell
2015-10-17 13:07           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-17 15:22             ` hasufell
2015-10-17 16:40               ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-17 22:16         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18  8:33           ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18  9:54           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18  9:56             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 10:13             ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18 10:17               ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 10:49                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-19  7:12                 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19  7:22                   ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-19  7:28                     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19  8:25                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-19  8:31                       ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19  7:58                   ` Michał Górny
2015-10-19  8:04                     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19  8:09                       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-19  8:17                         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19  8:07                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-19 22:07                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-19 12:38                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-19 13:34                     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19 13:51                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-19 14:21                         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19 17:17                           ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-19 18:28                             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-19 19:49                               ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-20  7:51                                 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-20  8:57                                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-20  9:22                                     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-20 10:00                                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-20 10:25                                         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-21  1:24                                           ` Duncan
2015-10-21  7:29                                             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 10:36             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-20  7:47         ` Daniel Campbell
2015-10-20  8:00           ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-17 12:42     ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-17 12:25   ` hasufell
2015-10-17 12:38     ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-17 12:49       ` hasufell
2015-10-17 12:56         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-17 13:02           ` hasufell
2015-10-17 13:47         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-17 15:00           ` hasufell
2015-10-17 16:07             ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-17 16:35               ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-17 18:03         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-10-18 11:37           ` hasufell
2015-10-18 11:43             ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18 12:05               ` hasufell
2015-10-18 12:24                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-17 12:51       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-17 19:15         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-17 20:08 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-17 20:47   ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18  8:31     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18  8:48       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18  9:23         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 10:07           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18 10:34             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 11:54           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-18 11:57             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 12:44       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-10-18 13:01         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18 18:00         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 18:06           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-10-18 18:19             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 18:36               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-10-18 19:20                 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-17 21:24   ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18  8:47     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18  9:01       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18  9:34         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-18 10:09           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18 10:31             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-20 18:55 ` [gentoo-dev] utilizing BASH_COMPAT to smooth upgrades Mike Frysinger
2015-10-20 22:03   ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-20 22:51     ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2015-10-21  7:34       ` [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Recommend setting the bash compatibility level. (was: Re: utilizing BASH_COMPAT to smooth upgrades) Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-22 13:55         ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2015-10-22 15:00           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-22 15:21             ` Mike Frysinger

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