On 15 Oct 2015 12:15, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 10/15/2015 08:34 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > background:
> > everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people want the initial stage
> > tarball that we release and you install Gentoo from to not be completely
> > sparse.  we've got a bug for this topic:
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/393445
> > 
> > items to sort out:
> > - should the list of packages be in catalyst or profile-stacked content
> > -> imo it should be entirely in the profile
> > 
> > - should the packages list be in a new packages.default, or should we create a
> >   new set to hold it, or should we just go with @profile ?
> > -> @profile has the advantage of already existing.  we have to be careful so as
> >    to make it difficult to uninstall packages that the user does not actually
> >    want.
> 
> In portage, the current meaning of @profile is very similar to @system,
> except that it implies that members specify dependencies completely
> (allowing for optimal parallelization) [1]. The @profile set is only
> enabled for profiles from repositories that have "profile-formats =
> profile-set" set in metadata/layout.conf. It's an extension which is not
> covered by PMS.

layout.conf isn't covered by PMS, nor are sets, and packages file format is
compatible with PMS.  so i think we are OK here.

> > - if the packages aren't in @profile, should they be seeded in @world ?
> > -> imo yes as  we don't want all the default packages getting depcleaned as
> >    soon as you start using the new install.  if they're in @profile, then this
> >    is a moot point (assuming depclean does not clean out @profile).
> 
> In portage, @world = @profile + @selected + @system, which means that
> @profile is protected from depclean since it's a part of @world.

so if iputils is in @profile, and i do:
	emerge -C iputils
i don't get the ugly warning about it being in @system, but if i do:
	emerge @world
iputils comes back.  i think that's OK actually since people can do:
	emerge @selected
which has the classic @world meaning.
-mike