From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 15:07:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150910150716.5a843cc7.mgorny@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150910124641.GB6567@greenbeast>
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Dnia 2015-09-10, o godz. 08:46:41
Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> napisał(a):
> If upstream gives the option of gtk2 or gtk3, why shouldn't the ebuild?
> From the "I want a usable system with as little code as possible" and "I
> want a system tailored to my needs" standpoints, having only one version
> of gtk makes quite a bit of sense.
This is the same case as with many other libraries which suffered major
API changes -- SDL, for example. Just because upstream *thinks* they
support two GTK+ versions, doesn't mean they do. Only one of the
versions is well-tested, and the second one sometimes isn't tested at
all, neither by upstream nor by the developer.
The happy end result is, sometimes user has choice between 'working
package' and 'package randomly segfaulting when you least expect it'.
Of course, it's all hidden nicely under USE=gtk2 and USE=gtk3, so just
*maybe* if you have the time to read local flag descriptions for every
single package you may notice which of the flags should be enabled to
get a working app.
But yes, wasting people's time and offering easy way to data loss is
better than not supporting some imaginary corner case when you can
actually use some fancy combination of applications that can actually
run without that one library without losing stability and benefit you.
I hope you are ready to pay the developers who will waste their time
figuring out what goes wrong when you report a bug, until they figure
out it's because you have forced GTK+ version which upstream thought
they're supporting but they do not. That's certainly a better
alternative than paying for hardware that can handle loading two
libraries.
--
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-09 7:20 [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2015-09-09 7:24 ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-09 8:52 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-09-09 10:37 ` hasufell
2015-09-09 13:17 ` Brian Dolbec
2015-09-09 13:31 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 6:21 ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-10 8:47 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 10:45 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 10:50 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:03 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:13 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:25 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:33 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 12:44 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 12:53 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 13:10 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 15:35 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 15:41 ` Alec Warner
2015-09-10 15:50 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 16:50 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 16:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 13:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alan McKinnon
2015-09-10 12:46 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-10 13:07 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2015-09-10 13:20 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 14:31 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 15:38 ` Alec Warner
2015-09-10 16:37 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 16:57 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 17:17 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 18:05 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 18:22 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-10 18:30 ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2015-09-10 17:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 19:04 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 18:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 16:24 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-10 16:50 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2015-09-10 12:47 ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-09-10 16:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-10 18:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2015-09-10 18:21 ` hasufell
2015-09-10 18:26 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 9:03 ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-11 12:13 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 17:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-11 17:41 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 18:03 ` [gentoo-dev] USE="gui" Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-11 18:16 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-11 20:34 ` hasufell
2015-09-11 23:52 ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-12 11:47 ` hasufell
2015-09-12 2:29 ` [gentoo-dev] USE="gui" Duncan
2015-09-12 4:45 ` Dale
2015-09-12 2:24 ` Duncan
2015-09-12 4:55 ` [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Raymond Jennings
2015-09-12 10:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-09-12 10:48 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-13 5:07 ` Duncan
2015-09-12 10:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2015-09-09 10:06 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? (was: www-client/chromium gtk3 support) Duncan
2015-09-09 15:12 ` »Q«
2015-09-10 2:23 ` Duncan
2015-09-09 15:32 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-10 2:02 ` Duncan
2015-09-09 13:47 ` [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support Alexandre Rostovtsev
2015-09-10 6:28 ` Daniel Campbell
2015-09-09 15:00 ` Mike Gilbert
2015-09-09 15:10 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2015-09-09 15:16 ` Alec Warner
2015-09-09 15:40 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-09 15:48 ` hasufell
2015-09-09 16:14 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2015-09-09 16:36 ` hasufell
2015-09-09 18:17 ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
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